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Re: Saka
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2016, 05:01:52 PM »
What?
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Re: Saka
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2016, 06:28:37 PM »
My apologies if I mix\mess up stuff with M2TW - there you have a max of 31 factions in the descr_sm_factions file. You got 22.

Edit: just checked - appears you got the max for RTW. Arggghhh, this is frustrating.
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Re: Saka
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2016, 12:22:53 PM »
About deer
Deer- symbol of scythian tribes. This video  "The Scythians. The mystery of the Golden deer" (RUS) have a maps.
Deer- universal (widespread) symbol for scythian (saka) tribes.

In video:
Map of deer finds (3:40)
Burial (6:60)
Dress (11:00)
Map same cultures (14:20)
Sattlement (13:40)

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Re: Saka
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2016, 08:58:35 AM »
About slave.
Slave in nomadic army it is unlikely.
Slavery begins to rise in urbanization (primary for hard work and sexual entertainment). An army of slaves was formering when large military campaigns (for example Huns).
Ancient steppe nomads don`t used slaves (used but sporadic and unknown case).
Slave was (not for arrmy, not for work) - but like for sale and Exchange (sale to neighboring folks and tribes). Or for execution (political, personal animosity etc)


About saka army bonus in mod.
The main things for saka it is arch and horse.
Maybe need to make big radius shooting of archers? or (and) shooting accuracy? or (and) horse rejection (maneuver) from the enemy?
And horse speed (nomadic women horse archer)?
What do you think about bonus?
Is it posible?
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Re: Saka
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2016, 03:10:39 PM »
Yes those bonuses are possible: we can increase the range, accuracy of their arrows. Horse speeds can also be increased. But I'm not usre what you mean with horse rejection. Do you mean improved skirmish mode? If so that's possible too! :)

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Re: Saka
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2016, 03:24:45 PM »
Do you mean improved skirmish mode? If so that's possible too! :)
I mean fling off one's pursuers (avoid hitting the enemy). Run to distance then enemy came. Maneuver of keep the distance)))))) sorry for bad english
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Re: Saka
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2016, 04:33:31 PM »
Well yeah that's possible, there is even a way to make them avoid corners of the map automatically :) Also what range would you give them? Currently the range of horse archers is 15-160-170m Steppe foot archers have a range of 250-260m. Furthermore, will all horse horse archers get a speed bonus, or only the female horse archers? Btw: will these bonuses also apply to foot archers or units shared with Sarmatia? if so we'll have to make two separate units if we don't want to give Samaritan units the same bonus.
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Re: Saka
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2016, 05:38:32 PM »
Well yeah that's possible, there is even a way to make them avoid corners of the map automatically :) Also what range would you give them? Currently the range of horse archers is 15-160-170m Steppe foot archers have a range of 250-260m. Furthermore, will all horse horse archers get a speed bonus, or only the female horse archers? Btw: will these bonuses also apply to foot archers or units shared with Sarmatia? if so we'll have to make two separate units if we don't want to give Samaritan units the same bonus.
I think it`s not my choise. Same bonus easy but not good. We need balance and i just suggest. I`am not specialist of code and balance :) For example: It can be like this: Saka radius shooting and accuracy, sarmatian also can have bonus: damage by arrows and cavalery (?) Horse archer speed for saka women, and for sarmatian women... i dont know maybe speed of
Maneuver (?)
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Re: Saka
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2016, 06:38:26 PM »
I will increase the accuracy of steppe (horse) archers, for the saka women someone would have to make a horse skeleton with increased speed and steppe (horse) archers already have the highest range.

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Re: Saka
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2016, 07:07:58 PM »
I will increase the accuracy of steppe (horse) archers, for the saka women someone would have to make a horse skeleton with increased speed and steppe (horse) archers already have the highest range.
If it`s problem let`s not to do! For saka female can be accuracy -not radius. Rdius and accuracy for mans.



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Re: Saka
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2016, 07:31:04 PM »
Well it's not a problem because skeletons can be edited

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Re: Saka
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2016, 08:07:02 PM »
Well it's not a problem because skeletons can be edited
If it`s posible and No one is against...

I want to chage some animation for women horse archer. Is it to dificult to add it in the mod?



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Re: Saka
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2016, 04:56:53 PM »
New and old textures for  few nomad models:
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Re: Saka
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2016, 09:02:05 AM »
Saka Current Roster:

Barbarian Peasants
Runaway Slave Spearmen
Steppe Archers - Done
Steppe Elite Archers - Delete
Herdsmen
Barbarian Cavalry
Steppe Horse Archers - Done
Saka Noble Women - Done
Saka Lancers
Saka Horse Archers - Done?? Looks the same as Yuezhi
Barbarian Chosen Warlord
Yuezhi Horse Archers
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Re: Saka
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2016, 10:03:34 AM »
This what can i do with models and texture:

Barbarian Peasants - change model like  steppe horshe archer ( i'll remade new one without arch and new texture it easy) or just ne texure
Runaway Slave Spearmen -rename Saka Spearmen (need new model)
Steppe Archers - Done
Steppe Elite Archers - need to Delete
Herdsmen -              saka light cav (need new model) and rename to light cav (why rename becouse all saka mans is herdsmens)
Barbarian Cavalry   need new hat for model (+texture: hat and shield)
Steppe Horse Archers - Done (Can be renamed - like Saka rider (?)) need to correct texture (hair)
Saka Noble Women - Done                need to rename Saka Women
Saka Lancers done (but can be renamed Saka haevy cav (?)) need correct texture
Saka Horse Archers - Done?? Looks the same as Yuezhi - need chaged model from Steppe Archers but with new texture
Barbarian Chosen Warlord  need to change like Herdsmen (new light cav) with new texture
Yuezhi Horse Archers - done

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*not soo fast
« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 10:22:04 AM by xeofox »