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Title: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 01, 2013, 09:36:46 PM
I find these really cool, maybe someone else does; if you'd like to post your scores I would be interested in the results, though I suspect they'll be largely similar.

This type of test created primarily by Dr.s Carl Jung and Isabel Briggs Meyers has been used to categorize different ways of thinking depending on a mix of concious and subconcious priorities. There are 72 statements and you answer if in general you are more or less disposed towards them. From this there are ways to categorize how you are most likely to think about and approach different situations and therefore try to get a reading on what vocation among other things would be most suited to your personality style. Links below, second one is a rundown of what each type means.

Types are broken down into a four letter acronym each with 2 different possiblities per letter for a total of 16 types.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp)

http://www.humanmetrics.com/hr/you/personalitytype.aspx (http://www.humanmetrics.com/hr/you/personalitytype.aspx)

I take one of these tests whenever I find them just out of curiosity. I score INTP usually, though on this one I scored INTJ. This site is annoying in it's use of capitalizing words out of place although they seem to know what they're talking about.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 01, 2013, 09:41:42 PM
As a side note if Jubal takes this test I'd hazard a guess he gets ENTP or ENTJ.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Jubal on May 02, 2013, 12:14:35 AM
I've taken a ton of these tests before; you're close, but I'm actually a pretty strongly expressed introvert (INTJ). Interesting that I would appear as an extrovert... I guess the situations where you guys don't see me are the ones that would change that perception, generic social situations I'm usually extremely quiet. Exilian has grown very organically around my own interests, and therefore I tend to be very "in my element" and actually have things to say here.

This variant of the test is interesting for the practice of giving percentage levels, which give a spurious an unwarranted level of claimed accuracy but do have the plus side of showing strong and weak expression of traits. I know some people who feel they fit the Myers-Briggs categories very well and others (perhaps whose expressions are more borderline) who feel that the categorisation system is poor. I tend to think of it as a fun test, but I'm sceptical of the idea it can be applied really broadly, not least because a lot of people have large shifts in their personality. Someone's basic "type" on these tests for example could easily change if they had certain symptoms of depression, and people change the habits being asked about and measured a lot over the course of their lives in many cases.

My scores from this variant of the test:
INTJ
Introvert(78%)  iNtuitive(88%)  Thinking(25%)  Judging(67%)
You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (78%)
You have strong preference of Intuition over Sensing (88%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
You have distinctive preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 02, 2013, 12:33:55 AM
I was conflicted on E or I. This time had reason to doubt myself it seems. I went for E as I assumed you had a disposition for taking the lead in projects and this forum(though actually that may not be the case, I didn't check), usually associated with E.

Yeah, as a person who frequently suffers strong bouts of depression or type 2 bi-polar and has an extremely low stress threshold, I doubt I really fit into any sort of category well as my maligned thoughts are somewhat deviated from their 'true' path. I scored 92% introversion iirc and this is the part that interests me most, introversion vs extraversion. As you can see I'm really a loner but usually fairly happy with it, although introversion is sometimes mislabeled as being about not liking people it's more to do with our percieved lack of importance for small talk.

Not sure I agree with the notion that people change their personality, I think some would like to(including myself) but short of alteration to temporal and/or frontal lobes I don't see how it's possible from an atanomical perspective. Though my research into this has been extremely limited.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Jubal on May 02, 2013, 12:49:48 AM
Typelogic I think gives interesting descriptions for how the elements fit together:
http://www.typelogic.com/intj.html

Taking the lead doesn't necessarily imply extroversion. I think it's more that introverts will lead in a different way; extroverts are naturally outgoing team people often, which can be great in a leadership role, but a more calculated and cerebral style of management that would be associated with introverts can also be effective. I think with me my projects are really born out of my being an ideas person; I'm not the leader so much because I like leading or I naturally gel a team together or because I bounce around a great deal, but because I can have the ideas and hold the big picture of a project in my head and know what everyone is doing and where everything is going and how the system will ultimately fit together. Different personalities can do most things (I'm extremely sceptical of trying to sort people to ideal jobs based on personality), but will bring different strengths and weaknesses and styles of working.

Personality is partly a result of nature, but a lot of it's nurture as well. Your frontal lobes may give you limits or inherent tendencies but the range of possibilities are also likely to be wide. Also, what I specifically meant in my last post was that an "introvert" may act extroverted simply through force of habit or the requirements of their lifestyle or job, or whatever; people's actions are dictated by their world as well as their instinct, and it's impossible to disentangle the two which very much limits the accuracy of the Myers-Briggs system.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 02, 2013, 01:42:35 AM
I did read those articles and I wasn't impressed to be honest, it was interesting but I didn't like the style.

I'd agree that finding a job based on it is too much and they only pick out 'nice' jobs for you anyway. Out of the millions of vocations they pick twenty or something in total. But from the test and the analysis you can see how different aspects can be suited to areas that you may not have thought about.

I find it difficult to relate to nurture as I can't remember my childhood and therefore can't link events to how that has affected me now. Experience, whilst being part of nurture I tend to regard as a seperate being altogether. I agree that one may act as another but I find that what people want from themselves is limited to what they imagine. Forced change in personality through circumstance is an interesting position, I can see how circumstance can affect morals and morality which in turn affects how we tackle problems and social engagements. Eg. gang culture leads to shift in what is acceptable as an outcome to a solution and as such the problem of having no money leads to theft.
I don't put much stock in these tests in case you think otherwise, they serve as a nice distraction and as an adequate way to categorize humanity.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Othko97 on May 02, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
INTJ

Introvert(89%),  iNtuitive(50%),  Thinking(38%),  Judging(67%)

You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (89%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have distinctive preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Silver Wolf on May 02, 2013, 05:58:45 PM
I remember posting something similar a long time ago.
Scored ENTP back then.

Now:

ENTJ
Extravert(33%)  iNtuitive(50%)  Thinking(25%)  Judging(22%)

    You have moderate preference of Extraversion over Introversion (33%)
    You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
    You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (25%)
    You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (22%)


Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 04, 2013, 02:45:59 AM
Thank you very much both.
Othko, you're pretty close to Jubal, this was the kind of result I was expecting to be honest as from what I gather this forum is mostly inhabited by like minded people interested in largely the same things. I'd be curious to read a study linking activities with these results I think. Might go looking for one.

Silver your scores are pretty close to centre though. If you read the article associated with the score did it suit you or not so much?

This also probably also indicates that you're adaptable to most anything, or that like Jubal said, these tests don't work so well for centre players :)

Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Scarlet on May 04, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
Interesting.. I suspect I am pretty borderline with some things because my brain has two quite opposite modes of operation especially when it comes to thinking/feeling.

INTJ
Introvert(44%)  iNtuitive(62%)  Thinking(1%)  Judging(67%)
You have moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (44%)
You have distinctive preference of Intuition over Sensing (62%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have distinctive preference of Judging over Perceiving (67%)
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Scarlet on May 04, 2013, 11:52:31 AM
I would say the judging over perceiving result is also interesting. I'm not entirely sure what it means to be honest.  Though I would say I was sometimes quick to judge, I also think that I am perceptive (by which I mean reading other's emotions and knowing how people will react) in a way other people really aren't.
Wow. The Lizzie Bennet comparisons really just keep on coming xD
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Silver Wolf on May 04, 2013, 05:51:57 PM
Silver your scores are pretty close to centre though. If you read the article associated with the score did it suit you or not so much?

This also probably also indicates that you're adaptable to most anything, or that like Jubal said, these tests don't work so well for centre players :)

ENTJ describes me well, but ENTP is the closest match (almost 100%).
However, I've never tried doing these during some of my darker phases. Perhaps I would get different results?
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: comrade_general on May 05, 2013, 01:25:37 AM
Not gonna take the test again cuz I always score either INTJ or ISTJ. Good equilibrium between intuition and sensitivity. :)
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 05, 2013, 03:43:33 AM
@Scarlet: The judging over percieveing means that you like to take definitive action over taking things as they come. This guy explains it better though http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/judging-or-perceiving.asp (http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/judging-or-perceiving.asp). This is in my opinion the weakest area of the test as I don't belive the two categories are necessarily dichotomies. As for your two modes, I find that as well actually. Sometimes I'll be analytical with my emotions, sometimes more 'feeling', though as I mentioned I'm not exactly sound of mind :)

Interesting comment Silver, I believe (if by 'darker phases' you suffer from depressive episodes, or just regular bad day at work type thing probably); the scores might reflect a lower extraverted and a higher thinking percentage over feeling as 'switching off' is a common reaction. Called disconnection I think.

Thanks c_g remembering a score is just as good :D

Great feedback here by the way
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Will on May 05, 2013, 10:01:23 AM
I've done this type of thing before and I think I have gotten the same result, however I seem to have become less extreme on everything. The introvert score is definitely lower than last time, pretty sure I had 70%+ on it and I still feel as though most humans are annoying, so not sure what has happened there.

Introvert(11%)  iNtuitive(50%)  Thinking(38%)  Judging(22%)
You have slight preference of Introversion over Extraversion (11%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (50%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (22%)

Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Scarlet on May 05, 2013, 10:55:39 AM
I can say I agree more with the score on that interpretation. It does make somewhat more sense now, though I'm not really sure about how one can test it. The category certainly seems more dubious than the others. Also.. the words don't really relate to the concepts.. but interesting nonetheless.
Psh. Sound mind is dull.

I can't say I'm surprised we're all coming up more or less the same. It's interesting where the variation is and also how people have changed over time. I would have liked to do this test before I came to university to see how it compares. We should all come back to it in 6 months or a year and do it again :P
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Silver Wolf on May 05, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
I can't say I'm surprised we're all coming up more or less the same. It's interesting where the variation is and also how people have changed over time. I would have liked to do this test before I came to university to see how it compares. We should all come back to it in 6 months or a year and do it again :P

I agree.
We actually have one somewhere. I think we did it last year and had pretty much the same results. ;D
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Jubal on May 05, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
I have pretty strong expressions on everything, never scored anything other than INTJ.  :)
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 05, 2013, 08:50:23 PM
Thanks Will...Maybe you're mellowing? :P

Yeah I had a sneaking suspicion that there would be a fair few INT's whom are characteristically deep thinkers and the like. For J/P people are a lot harder to predict in my opinion as it doesn't necessarily have a direct influence on actions.

I take the test fairly often and end up with always a high introversion and intuitive score and actually although I scored INTJ on this one INTP both fits me a lot better and is how I usually score. I like the difference between INTJ and INTP, they are similar but INTJ have greater confidence and conviction giving them a distinct ability to act on the ideas they have while INTP are looking for more ways of doing things but not implementing them necessarily and proving things for the sake of truth and to persue logic to it's extreme.

The section in the article attached to INTP (Link on first page) I find most interesting though is where it says that INTPs feel strongly 'all or nothing'. I don't seem to feel strongly about much mostly it's nothing, but when I am passionate about something friends have commented that 'it's nice to see something alive in there after all'. I wouldn't have made this conclusion myself from the data so I think I'm missing something in the test (likely any formal training in psychology).
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Jubal on May 05, 2013, 10:38:10 PM
Well, in terms of formal training, academic/professional psychologists don't tend to use Myers-Briggs at all in favour of other tests of personality. The Myers-Briggs test is massively common in management studies, business, and that sort of thing, but practically doesn't exist in the world of "real" psychologists.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 06, 2013, 12:48:53 AM
For sure, just would help with interpretation. Relying on people for evidence and conclusion only gets you so far, I'd much rather know how the answers are derived myself.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Will on May 07, 2013, 12:43:14 AM
Thanks Will...Maybe you're mellowing? :P

Think I was just tired. :)
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Othko97 on May 11, 2013, 11:32:31 PM
After taking quite a few different tests on different sites I have to say they describe them with an eerie accuracy.
Title: Re: Jungian based typology test
Post by: Clockwork on May 12, 2013, 09:12:08 PM
hehe sometimes they do get it right, better than paying for mystics on the TV :P