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Title: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on June 10, 2013, 08:55:20 PM
Time to start another RTW swap that will never get finished!  8)

Who's in??
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on June 10, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
Me! With a mod, or vanilla?

Thrace might be fun to do?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on June 10, 2013, 08:57:20 PM
We can do it with vaniller. Thrace sounds good, challenging. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Scarlet on June 10, 2013, 09:57:44 PM
I'm sure I shall be cursed and spat upon for this but what is a RTW "swap"?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Pentagathus on June 10, 2013, 10:00:53 PM
Its where wait for someone to ask what it is so we can all curse and spit at them. Mwahahahahaha.
I imagine its where one person starts a campaign, saves it after a certain number of turns and then sends the save to another person.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on June 10, 2013, 10:54:13 PM
I'm in... Unless it's happening in the next 2 weeks. Thrace is unplayable in vanilla though :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on June 10, 2013, 11:25:49 PM
Thrace is unplayable in vanilla though :P
Making it playable in descr_strat doesn't affect compatibility at all. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on June 10, 2013, 11:31:00 PM
True that, still has a hint of unvanillary about it :)

What difficulty would it be played at? Guessing VH or equivalent, RTW was kinda easy, until you get enough squalor to topple your empire :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on June 11, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
To a modder RTW is still vanilla even after making all factions playable. ;D

But yeah we'll do this one VH/VH.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on June 25, 2013, 09:37:00 PM
I will totally suck on VH/VH, but yeah, still calling for Thrace as faction.  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on June 25, 2013, 11:37:59 PM
'ight, I'll get this one started soon. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on June 28, 2013, 11:38:59 PM
Once WHTW's out, a WHTW swap is also in order I think. Possibly Luccini?  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 06, 2013, 03:18:15 AM
New Beginnings

King Sautes looked out across his dwindling kingdom and wept. Lysimachus had long been dead, and the country of Thrace had fallen into despair. But King Sautes fancied himself a king of old, and greatly desired to lead his people into a new age of Thracian glory. The people trusted and loved Sautes already, and because of this he quickly convinced them to pack their belongings and begin a journey that would lead them to new beginnings.

This task would not be easy.

Firstly, a fleet of ships was constructed at the port of Getae. These then carried the people of that land Southwards where Sautes had gathered the bulk of his people. 'Twas a sad day to see their homeland shrink into the horizon, and even more so because of the faithful volunteers who stayed behind to deter invaders for as long as possible.

The quest began calmly, however, as the fleet began sailing towards the island of Crete. It had been agreed between King Sautes' advisers that the island should be taken possession of, to serve as a safe haven lest the journey turn ill. The few villagers that were found in the city of Kydonia were defiant against the Thracians, but they were soon convinced, at the point of a sword, that it would serve them best to cooperate.

Once the island was under Thracian control, King Sautes set his sights on the ancient land of Egypt. Sautes had heard stories about this land since he was a child. Many Greeks had ruled over the land of Egypt since the days of the mighty Pharaohs, and King Sautes thought it was now his turn. But he wanted this land for the people of Thrace, for it was to become their new homeland.
The Thracians swept into the land, taking the Greegyptians completely by surprise. The city of Alexandria was quickly subdued in a glorious battle. The King then sent his son Pytros to hammer South and take Memphis.

With a strong foothold in their new lands, the Thracians now look freely to their new future...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

All yours, Jubal. I'll email you the save file. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 06, 2013, 12:53:50 PM
Done mine, I'll post the log up soon. Rob next? Or SOTK?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 07, 2013, 10:44:54 AM
I'd love to get involved. Not entirely sure how to unlock Thrace but I'm sure it is reasonably easy. Only just installed the game again after some years of terrible darkness in the wilderness without it on my computer.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on July 07, 2013, 10:49:49 AM
This guide explains how to unlock all factions (http://exilian.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=149.0).
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 07, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
Pretty sure you don't need to have Thrace unlocked to join in anyway, the save will almost certainly work fine regardless.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 07, 2013, 01:08:28 PM
Pretty sure you don't need to have Thrace unlocked to join in anyway, the save will almost certainly work fine regardless.
Correct.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 07, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
So who AM I sending this to?  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 07, 2013, 02:00:15 PM
Pretty sure you don't need to have Thrace unlocked to join in anyway, the save will almost certainly work fine regardless.

That would make sense. Forgive my foolishness.  ;D
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 07, 2013, 02:28:15 PM
Send to me! 20 turns is it?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 07, 2013, 02:29:25 PM
Yeah, about a decade anyhow  :P

I'll email it to you soon.  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 09, 2013, 12:53:11 PM
Sorry it's a bit late:



The Chronicle of the Thracians

260BC: Troops moved from Alexandria to Memphis.

259: Moved south to Thebes. Great projects for the construction of farms ordered, to ensure the kingdom had much needed revenues. Some garrison reductions ordered; siege of Thebes begins.
Black Battle of Thebes. Pharaoh Khnumhoptep attacks the besieging force with great score of troops. His powerful chariots sweep our forces away utterly, killing many of the great men of the realm. Sautes alone among his generals escapes, bitter and heartbroken.
 
He nevertheless orders the training of more hoplite militias to defend Alexandria and Memphis against any oncoming counter-attack; the coming months could be crucial to the young realm.

258: Egyptians besiege Memphis. A governor’s villa ordered in Kydonia.
Khnumhoptep assaults Memphis, with vastly superior strength in arms.
 
His forces advance on the walls of Memphis. They have one great battering ram, which he has titled “The Shatterer of Horus”, one great tower “The Tower of Zeus”, and various siege ladders, thus ensuring both Egypt’s old and new gods are recognised. The ram, however, is burned and destroyed by the powerful ballistae in the towers above the gates of Memphis. Thus deprived of a way to get his powerful chariots inside easily, he attempts to take the gate by sending his spearmen up the ladders and towers. These are cut down by the brave Thracian falxmen. In a rage, the Pharaoh sent his javelinmen to climb the ladders too, though these died even more swiftly. At last, he was forced to ride away, swearing revenge on all the Thracian people. 128 Thracians died on the walls; nearly nine hundred of Egypt’s infantry were sent to whatever hell they pleased.

257:
Sautes, most noble of leaders, finally dies, exhausted by the Black Battle and then by his heroic defence of Memphis. Byzas his second son becomes the new King, with Deopus his daughter’s husband as heir to the Thracian throne. A split in the family geographically is now clear; the line of Byzas is entirely in Egypt, whereas that of Pytros, the elder, remains in Old Thrace.
An Egyptian navy attempts to blockade the docks at Alexandria but is swiftly defeated. Byzas’ reign is something the Egyptians are not prepared to have last long, though, and both Alexandria and Memphis are rapidly besieged by vast Egyptian hordes. It is at this desperate moment that Bryzos son of Byzas is given his first cavalry command, helping his father in the defence of Alexandria.

256: The Egyptians seem determined to starve the two cities out; the larger garrison, that of Alexandria, is forced to try and act. There are 1300 Thracians against 1500 Egyptians.
In the battle, Byzas falls, as does the Egyptian commander, Shabaka Auletes. The Thracians kill 1276 Egyptians for 860 or so losses, but fail to decisively push the Egyptians from the battlefield as the morale of the hoplite militia wavers. Bryzos is made the new heir.
Bryzos quickly realises that he is better placed now to push the Egyptians from Alexandria – it will take the Pharaoh another three years if he wants to starve Memphis out – and orders a second attempt at a counterattack. He finally defeats the Egyptians, though losing many of his own many in the process; just two hundred Thracians now guard Alexandria. Bryzos quickly orders the training of more men for the war.
Khnumhoptep, on hearing of his forces’ failures at Alexandria, orders the construction of siege equipment and an assault on Memphis; his infantry only consists of a tiny number of Libyans, however, and the ram they build is swiftly destroyed.

255: Deopus, the siege at last lifted, orders Phalanx Pikemen to be trained. It is not lifted for long though, as the vengeful Pharaoh orders another attack. Riots break out in Tylis, with the practice range being badly damaged.

254: The Pharaoh’s armies finally leave Memphis. Given a breathing space, King Deopus decides that shrewd financial investment is much needed. He orders the building of better roads around Tylis and Alexandria.
Tylis, however, is not in a good state. The barbarous Scyths swoop from the north and attack the city under their great warlord Partatua.

253: Scouts are sent south to see what the Pharaoh is up to. Troops are seen moving around Thebes, and men are sent from Alexandria to Memphis in case this portends an assault.

Partatua moves against the garrison in Tylis. Desakenthos, the Thracian commander, realises they have only built a single ram, and packs his hoplites at the gate in the hope that the poorer quality Scythians will be unable to break their phalanx.
 
All is in vain, however; whilst the main body of the barbarians flee, the bodyguard of Partatua break the phalanx and kill Desakenthos – though Partatua himself is also slain in the fighting, this is little recompense for the loss of the Thracian ancestral home. Iptacens, the last member of the Pytrid line, is unceremoniously executed by the Scythians.

A further result is the renewed importance of Egypt. Deopus, now essentially capital of a state based on the Nile Delta with its capital at Alexandria, moves south with all his men to finally try and challenge the might of Pharaoh.

252: News of a new army moving on Alexandria reaches Deopus and he moves north to block its path – the Pharaoh will have to wait until another day. The Pharaoh hunts down a Thracian scouting party and annihilates it, then moves to besiege Memphis again.

251: Deopus takes the field against the northern Egyptian force. He adopts a son, Mukaporis, a promising young cavalryman, as his second in command. He eventually hunts down the enemy not far from the great Pharos lighthouse; the Battle of the Pharos is about to begin.
The battle is vast, and the greatest Thracian victory in many years. 2274 Thracians take the field and just over thirty of them die – though these sadly include Mukaporis, slain just as he entered the world of politics by the knife of a mere Egyptian javelinman. The Egyptian force of 1200 men is obliterated, with only nine escaping to tell the tale. The telling factor is the sheer number of Thracian skirmishers, wounding the enemy grievously such that when the hoplites and pikemen attack, the Egyptian line breaks almost instantly.
 
Deopus once more turns south, where the siege of Memphis is still underway. A treaty of alliance is signed with the Seleucids, who are themselves facing the great wrath of the Pharaoh’s armies according to the map information they have given us.
Fresh from his great victory at the Pharos, Deopus gambles on attacking the Pharaoh near Memphis. This is a gamble too far, though; the massive chariot battalion of the Pharaoh kills him and destroys most of his routing army. The remainder, under Captain Kersebleptos, manages to fight an effective rearguard action later in the year, but even this is eventually defeated. The Pharaoh has few men left, but the Thracian garrisons are now threadbare at best and with an inexperienced young king.

250: Bryzos I’s reign had to start with creating a succession. Two commanders, Spartacus and Ketripioris, were promoted to allow this, and the army of Deopus was retrained rapidly in Memphis. Ketripioris left Memphis to attempt to go round the Pharaoh’s army to Alexandria, but a new Egyptian force appeared in his way. Spartacus led an army south to feint an attack on Thebes, leaving a guard on the main bridge the Pharaoh would have to cross to follow them; the Pharaoh’s army did not move, however…



I didn't do very well, basically. 1 province lost, 0 gained, held on in Egypt, high turnover of leaders. Definitely we're in with a shout of getting Thebes again though, and the Egyptians really suck at attacking big walls so build lots of them.

Also get ALL of the pikes. And watch out for chariots, basically all my defeats involved the Pharaoh's chariots personally running my entire army over.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 09, 2013, 11:13:35 PM
No problem with losing the province as we weren't meant to keep hold of Old Thrace for long anyway. ;)

Best way to destroy Egyptians is to leave your pikemen in a line somewhere safe but facing the enemy naturally, and if there are chariots (which there are almost guaranteed to be), use as many general's bodyguards and skirmisher horse to attack them in bulk. Don't let the chariots run around - attack them when they are standing still and useless. The mixture of horsemen will make light work of them.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 11, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
Rob is apparently busy, anyone else want to take next turn?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 11, 2013, 03:57:19 PM
I wouldn't mind, depends if you want to put Thrace in jeopardy or not? Also I think flaming arrows are good against chariots.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 12, 2013, 12:20:05 AM
Sent on etc  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 12, 2013, 12:52:09 AM
The next 10 years of the mighty Thracian empire have been completed. Notes taken, Egyptians killed. Will form a report at some stage soon.

I have the save back on the laptop to pass on to the next participant.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 15, 2013, 09:08:13 PM
Winter 249BC until the winter of 240.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 15, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
Nice work Will. :)

OK who's next? Rob? Penty? One of the Saws?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 15, 2013, 09:46:47 PM
Sorry, steam broke for me :(

I'm back now though. All hail/throw stuff at.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 15, 2013, 09:50:46 PM
Shall I send you the save then Rob?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 15, 2013, 10:26:57 PM
Yes please! Gone into Egypt with Thrace? Not my usual ploy I'll admit but I'm sure I'll adapt :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 15, 2013, 11:26:19 PM
Nice work Will. :)

OK who's next? Rob? Penty? One of the Saws?

Think I should have been more adventurous in expanding the empire.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 15, 2013, 11:56:46 PM
There's always next time. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 16, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
There's always next time. :)

First thing I shall do is stack up a general with an army and see how deep into enemy territory I can get. :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 16, 2013, 06:57:12 PM
That's the Alexander way. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 16, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
Ah, Alexander the womanbeater.  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 18, 2013, 03:50:11 PM
Right all finished. Spent the vast majority of the time repelling Egypt and dealing with rebellion so couldn't really accomplish much.


Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Good luck to the next person the constant attacks on Alexandria are becoming increasingly difficult and there is no money left, require an army disband really but the troops are needed just to hold the provinces.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 18, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Thrace will prevail!!!

Reckon it's my turn again?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 18, 2013, 05:55:57 PM
Thrace will prevail!!!

Reckon it's my turn again?

Go for it! :) Unless there is anyone who hasn't had their first go.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 18, 2013, 06:57:51 PM
Forwarded the save to you CG. Please make sure we're out of a hole before I bugger things up again.  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 18, 2013, 09:53:22 PM
Forwarded the save to you CG. Please make sure we're out of a hole before I bugger things up again.  :P
You mean before you set me up for my epic Alexander the Great style rampage. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 18, 2013, 11:29:59 PM
Yeah, that :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 20, 2013, 03:32:24 AM
Oh my. I'm gonna have to study this one for a bit before I take action. :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 20, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
We have faith in you. We need to have because none of the rest of us can actually play this game well.  :D
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 20, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
No pressure then.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 20, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Thrace lives!

The chronicles of this time are somewhat shady due to the turbulence among the Thracian people as they fought quite literally for their very existence. (or because I'm lazy :P )

229 BC - 226 BC
King Spartacus did some studying of the enemy and decided to lure the Gypsies into fighting on bridges (or Tunnels of Death as he called them).
These traps were set across the Nile near Memphis and Thebes. Many tens of thousands of Gypsies were slaughtered in these years, but that was the cost of Thracian freedom.
Once he felt the path was clear enough, Spartacus took as large a force as he could muster and besieged the city of Memphis, while a smaller guard gloriously defended the bridge south of the city.
The Gypsies attempted a sally from Memphis but were cut to pieces by Spartacus and his small band of cavalry, however some of them made it back to the walls.

226 BC - 224 BC
Finally the Egyptians managed to bring a relief force to Memphis to try and rout Spartacus. They joined forces with the army of Memphis, but it was all in vain, for Spartacus dispatched the entire 3,500 man army with his faithful cavalry. Memphis became Thracian again! Spartacus had the city cleaned of filth, and his coffers did fill.

224 BC - 220 BC
An age of prosperity and growth came to the new lands of Thrace. Alexandria, the jewel of the Greek world, became so swelled with population that it became indeed "huge". Even the island of Crete saw growth under the Thracian's goodwill. King Spartacus trained new forces these years, and restocked his veteran legions with his most formidable men, creating a professional army of over 3,000 Thracians!
The Egyptians now looked on with fear at this new war-machine as it marched eastward toward their remaining lands, erasing their armies from existence along the way.

Now begins the Golden Age of Thrace!

Save file sent to you, Jubal. :)

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z217/comrade_general_2007/thrace_220_zpsfd477c87.jpg)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 20, 2013, 05:23:26 PM
Well done, but how the hell did you manage to get the happiness level high enough whilst disbanding the army??
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 20, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
Well done, but how the hell did you manage to get the happiness level high enough whilst disbanding the army??

Magic!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 20, 2013, 07:08:40 PM
Well done, but how the hell did you manage to get the happiness level high enough whilst disbanding the army??
Population Extermination ;)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 20, 2013, 07:23:28 PM
On Alexandria? I had to stack so many troops there just to keep them from revolting. Serious kudos for winning Memphis back :D
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 20, 2013, 07:51:10 PM
No I exterminated Memphis. I think that made the people of Alexandria second guess their discontent. ;)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 20, 2013, 10:19:25 PM
Won't get mine done until Monday I think, very well done good sir  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 23, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Well done, but how the hell did you manage to get the happiness level high enough whilst disbanding the army??
I forgot that upgrading Alexandria to a huge city did a lot for public support as well. ;)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 24, 2013, 01:49:31 PM
How's it coming along, Jubal? :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 24, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
All done & sent to Will :)



220: Execution square in Memphis pulled down, ending barbarous Egyptian practices. Memphis reinforced with pikemen. Spartacus moves toward Jerusalem.

219: Memphis besieged. Egyptian force catches up with Spartacus in the desert under Nakhti the Cruel. Around 1000 Thracian casualties but Egyptian force badly mauled and reduced to a few hundred leaderless men. A captain called Heruben then attacks the force; his heavy infantry are badly outmatched, and for just 200 Thracian losses the 1000 strong force is reduced to just two men. The battle is afterwards named Cruelty’s End by the Thracians, that all shall remember the fall of Egyptian tyranny. The way open, Spartacus marches on Jerusalem, only to find that its garrison is great in strength and numbers.

The assault on Memphis then happens. One and a half thousand Egyptians die scaling the walls, to around a thousand Thracians. The Egyptian cavalry and chariots are unscathed, but their commander refuses to commit them to attacking a breach in the walls, instead standing back and eventually retreating.

Spartacus is attacked again by three vast Egyptian forces. The peril is great and no retreat can be effected. The battle of Mukapaibes’ Hill commences; Mukapaibes, the Thracian second in command, sacrifices himself to allow the Thracian force time to turn and face its pikes to the Jerusalem garrison before turning and beating a second Egyptian force. The third and largest force, fearful of Thracian arms, refuses to abandon a position on a high nearby hill and watches Spartacus defeat the first two Egyptian armies. He loses around 500 men, killing nearly 800 of the foe including the destruction of many chariots.

The fighting is not over yet, however; a second huge army under Wah Philometor attacks the Thracians, hoping for a swift victory as their battered forces rest. His uphill assault goes poorly, however; his own bodyguard are mauled in the first charge and the Thracian cavalry make swift work of his mercenary spearmen. His chariots, absent in the first charge, are then cut up by the phalangites; the remainder join a hasty retreat, just 100 or so of his 1700 men leaving the battlefield. Eight hundred of 1300 Thracians remain; a weakened force, but a victorious one.

218: Jerusalem besieged. Repairs ordered to the walls of Memphis. Alexandria besieged by Egypt. Memphis besieged by Egypt.
Egypt makes a further attempt to relieve the siege of Jerusalem. It turns into another disaster for Egyptian arms as the Egyptian infantry fail to slog uphill and attack the bow and pike armed Thracians, with two of their generals killed and under forty men leaving the field alive. The garrison of Jerusalem is almost obliterated, and the 830 man relief force is left with just forty men and its general gone.

Jerusalem opens its gates to the invaders; the populace is treated brutally, but the loot replenishes the Thracian treasury to its greatest strength in decades. This great victory pushes Thrace above Egypt in production and financial rankings for the first time.

Thrace must then look to her defences, though. The assault on Alexandria comes, but is easily repelled, the 800 strong Egyptian force obliterated for just thirty Thracians; their ram destroys the gate but their cavalry charges to its death against the pikes that fill the narrow gap.

217: Memphis assaulted. The few infantry in the force are beaten off the walls easily. A Royal Palace is ordered in Thebes, and new building projects are commanded in Kydonia

216: Drenis, elder son of Spartacus, comes of age. Taking a force mostly of mercenaries, he takes a gamble and marches on the poorly defended city of Sidon. Memphis besieged again.

The garrison of Sidon consists only of the personal guard of Tantamun the Killer. Drenis’ men swiftly capture the walls and his mercenary War Elephants make swift work of the Egyptian cavalry in the square. Once again, the inhabitants are shown scant mercy by the attackers, and once again the Thracian treasury overflows with gold.

But Drenis’ plans do not stop there; taking only his cavalry and elephants he swiftly marches on Damascus.

215:
Spartacus dies, and Egypt besieges Jerusalem. Kersebleptos, a promising commander, is adopted by Drenis as his second in command, and they march north to threaten Antioch. A force sent south against them kills a significant number of elephants but otherwise the force is barely harmed. Antioch is besieged.
The assault on Jerusalem; the Egyptian army is vast, and eventually manages to swamp enough of the defenders to burst a gate open and let their cavalry rush in to massacre the defenders. It is a black day for Thrace, leaving the northern provinces (Sidon, Damascus) cut off from the Nile regions. Recovering Jerusalem must become a priority.

At Antioch, the Egyptians counterattack; Drenis is killed, but Kersebleptos leads the Thracians to a narrow victory and Antioch falls to them thereafter. There are now effectively two Thracian states – unless and until Jerusalem is re-taken.

214:

As a feint, a small force of camelry lays siege to Petra but are quickly chased off.

Kersebleptos adopts two more generals; one of them marches south to govern Damascus, along with forces from Sidon to boost the garrison. They are just about to meet when the Egyptians attack. They have many chariots, but Rescuturme’s forces beat them off with pikes and bows.

Sidon is besieged.

213:

Eptecentus governor of Alexandria moves to lift the Pharaoh’s long siege of Memphis, and attacks. After losing two chariot units against the Thracian phalangites, Pharaoh retreats and the siege is broken! Arrangements are made to replenish the garrison of Memphis.

Disaster then strikes. The men of Pontus attack Antioch! We can only pray that this war will not go too ill for us, or we could lose much that we have gained.

Eptecentus moves to guard the bridge near Memphis.

212:

The Pontic forces begin their assault. Their plan is to destroy our gatehouse and towers with onagers then breach the walls – but taking the breaches proves impossible for their pathetically weak spear-armed infantry and chariots. Eight hundred Ponticmen die for few Thracian losses. The Pontic leaders quickly re-lay the siege.

211:

Eptecentus marches past Pharaoh’s army and toward Jerusalem. Pharaoh chases it, leading him away from Memphis, and attacks it near the head of the Red Sea. Each side loses around 1500 men, and Eptecentus dies, but it is enough to give the numerically superior Thracians a narrow victory.
The leaderless force pushes on towards Jerusalem, though with little chance of success; Rescuturme moves south towards the great city, effectively abandoning his base in Damascus, to try and tempt the Egyptian forces besieging Sidon away from the city’s walls.

Iptacens, the captain leading Eptecentus’ former army, is swiftly set upon by marauding Egyptian troops. Their force has many chariots and they panic the Thracian left flank, but the centre holds firm and the chariots meet their doom there.

Rescuturme gets attacked as well, by one of the forces threatening Sidon. They are even matched in strength, but the inexperienced Egyptian captain tries to
force his men to attack uphill and is beaten back by pikemen, losing his own life in the process.

Iptacens is then attacked by the Pharaoh himself; he commands his men to hold firm, for they cannot retreat. The Pharaoh’s bodyguard is wrecked upon the Greek pikes, but he and his second in command both manage a hasty retreat once again.

210:

A new force is ordered to assemble in Egypt and move towards Petra. Rescuturme besieges Jerusalem, and Iptacens moves north to reinforce him.
What next? Who knows?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 24, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
lol "camelry" ;D

Good work, Joob! :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 24, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
Yeah, we're about evens with Egypt now, if we retake Jerusalem and capture Petra we'll be fairly well in control in the war - though the Pontic front could be a real issue, they're vastly more powerful than we are. Also Egypt still has a higher military ranking and (narrowly) more provinces than us so we need to at least reduce their current forces which will take some hard fighting and then preferably take a city or two more.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 24, 2013, 07:09:53 PM
You have your orders, Will. ;)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 25, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
Rampage it is then! (possible doom and destruction)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on July 29, 2013, 08:20:24 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 29, 2013, 08:26:38 PM
Right-o! I forgot about this. How's it going, Will? :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Paramythion on July 30, 2013, 04:56:07 AM
This looks quite interesting. I have done the migration thing before, but never with the Thracians. I would love to do a turn with this, if possible, whenever everyone else has had a shot. Although I don't normally play at VH/VH, so I can't promise my rule won't end in burning cities and the weeping of Thracian widows and orphans.

Sincerely,
                Lord Blaiddmor
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 30, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
OK I've done my ten years. Bloody battles every turn.

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Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 30, 2013, 09:51:04 PM
To quote Captain Picard: "Nicely done." I think given the state of the Empire you did very well. :) Still going to be tough for whoever is next though. :P

Who's next then? I'm so confused...

I'm certainly OK with giving Lord Blaiddmor a shot if everyone else is, and has had their most recent turn? Even if someone else (Saw) is itching for a turn I say the more the merrier. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 31, 2013, 02:10:44 AM
It'd be my turn however I'm more than happy to let Blaiddmor have a go.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 31, 2013, 05:19:39 AM
It'd be my turn however I'm more than happy to let Blaiddmor have a go.

If you take your turn and then Blaiddmor goes after you it works best because you are the last person before it goes back to the start again I think. Send me your email or I can give it to Jubal for him to pass it to you like last time again I don't mind.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on July 31, 2013, 10:03:57 AM
Yes go ahead and take your turn, Rob. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on July 31, 2013, 03:02:46 PM
sure ting boss
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on July 31, 2013, 04:48:51 PM
OK email sent to someone anyway. :) Good luck! FOR THE THRACIAN EMPIRE!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on August 02, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
Good luck Rob!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on August 06, 2013, 07:24:11 PM
Doing OK Rob? XD
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 06, 2013, 07:50:03 PM
Yeah sorry I got sidetracked and did actually forget :S

4 years to go but things took a bit of a turn for the worse :/
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on August 06, 2013, 09:55:27 PM
It is OK. I saw what you were up against, I was glad my turn was over haha!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 07, 2013, 03:37:29 AM
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Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on August 07, 2013, 05:41:32 PM
Good job against Pontus. I actually forgot about Kydonia when I was playing lol, oops.

(Rob you have a freaking awesome profile picture. XD)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 07, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
Next would be Lord Bliaddmor if he still wants a go (or anyone else who wants to jump in).
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 07, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
I've mailed our resident noble, ty Will :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 08, 2013, 12:56:12 PM
Not heard anything back, baton passed to the tactical genius of cg.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Paramythion on August 10, 2013, 04:40:00 AM
Apologies to all for any inconvenience I may have caused there, I have been off stalking the fabled wild boar of Exilian for most of the past week, and I forgot to announce my departure. Due to my guide's unfortunate mishap with his spear though, I'll be be holed up in the city for the foreseeable future, so if no one else has started, I would be more then happy to lead these valiant Thracians, and if someone else has already hopped in, then I am perfectly happy to wait as well.

Sincerely,
               Lord Blaiddmor
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 10, 2013, 10:57:01 AM
No problem Lord Blaiddmor. cg has it at the moment, I don't know if he's started it yet. If he hasn't, you'll get it soon, if not then fairly soon ;)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 10, 2013, 01:26:41 PM
I took a peek at the world situation, annnnnnnnd I think I'll let you take the turn, Lord. :P File sent.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 10, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
I didn't do *that* bad did I? :S
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 10, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
You did as good as anyone could in that situation, Rob. ;)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 10, 2013, 10:59:21 PM
:)

I'm thinking Dacia or Scythia might have been a safer option? They seem to have a load more toys that Thrace doesn't get :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on August 11, 2013, 10:49:29 AM
I took a peek at the world situation, annnnnnnnd I think I'll let you take the turn, Lord. :P File sent.

I don't think it is going to be a good situation for a while.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on August 11, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
I really hope Blaiddmor is good at this game.  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on August 13, 2013, 02:43:06 PM
Anyone mind if I jump in after Blaiddmor? :D
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 13, 2013, 08:03:48 PM
Not at all. As long as there is still a game to play after Blaiddmor. :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on August 13, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Just how bad is the situation? xD
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 13, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Dannii Minogues music career kind of bad.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Paramythion on August 14, 2013, 05:36:01 AM
I am penning this communication from my headquarters in Memphis. I received several invitations to reside in the palace, from the generals Dizazelmis and Satres, but I have no desire to get involved in their squabbling, so I set my base of operations in house adjacent to the barracks, where I could get a better feel for the mood of the troops. The owner seemed likely to object, until I took him aside and politely explained that Thracians like to use dissenters and malcontents as ammunition for their artillery. I have been reviewing the military situation, and it seems grim indeed. I shall give a brief summary, which will hopefully give you all a decent understanding of the less then delightful mess we find ourselves in.
The city of Memphis finds herself besieged. Outside of her walls is a significant force, consisting of (according to our patchy intelligence) at least 1100 legionnaires, around 300 auxilia of various sorts, roughly 200 cavalry, and a 300 strong force of elite Praetorians. As far as I know, all these troops are well trained, and supplied with fine weapons. In contrast, within Memphis, we have a newly levied, untrained, and poorly equipped force of roughly 400 pikemen and 500 archers.
To the south, outside of Thebes, we have besieged Thebes, with an army of approximately 600 pikemen, 300 peltasts, and a smallish rabble of barbarians with falxes. Nasty, uncivilized weapons, falxes. Within Thebes is no more then a skeleton force. Outside, and to our rear, is a mercenary band of around 800 Libyan skirmishers, some hoplites, and a few worrying elephants, led by Aulus Varus, a Roman general, of whom we know little. Behind him, is a force equal to his own, although we know nothing of the composition, as of yet. Victory is a very real possibility there, if the Thracian commander in the area can defeat them individually.
Alexandria has a decent force of roughly 700 pikemen, 300 peltasts and archers, and another rabble of unlettered barbarians, with uncouth weapons, and it seems to be safe from the Romans, for the time being at least.
My knowledge of the situation to the east of Egypt is rather less exact, as it has been sometime since any of our couriers made it past the Roman lines.
From what we know, it seems that there is a ceasefire with Pontus, although they refuse to move the considerable armies they have gathered on our border. The Egyptian Pharaoh is marching across the desert outside of Bostra, waiting for an opening, with a large army. However, all those cities have large, well-trained armies, and there seems to be no weak spot for him to exploit as of now.
So the question is, what strategy should I attempt?
Egypt proper is beleaguered, and unlikely to last long without assistance.
The eastern provinces can supply that assistance, but at the risk of losing them to the waiting forces of Pontus and Egypt.
I am open to suggestions as to what my priorities should be. No matter what I choose to protect, there will be some losses. It is merely a matter of damage control for now.

Sincerely,
               Lord Blaiddmor, Temporary Marshall of the Imperial Thracian Army, Peer of the Exilian Council For The Strategic Interference In
                                                                                                                         The Affairs Of Random Nations In Alternate Universes

P.S. I do hope my message arrives in a reasonable amount of time. The trip here really was horrendous. One of our men attempted to explain to me how it works, but he was a native, and there were linguistic issues. He kept repeating the word 'wormhole', and pointing at the tunnel we came through. If one of you could pop down to the Citizen's Library, and look it up in a Thracian dictionary, I would be much obliged.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on August 14, 2013, 10:35:53 AM
For Memphis, the question is not their forces so much as their siege weapons. I'd just sit tight there, get the archers lined up on the walls, sit at least one if not two pike blocks behind the main gate or behind any walls that have sap points pointing at them, and cross a lot of fingers.

For Thebes, push forward and attack. If you face the elephants, loose formation peltasts & pikemen should be a workable combination. Except when trying to scale the walls of Thebes itself, let the enemy come to you, get your pikemen formed up in the corner/on a hill/preferably both.

My strong advice is to keep your eastern forces in the east, your pikes should be reliable enough to, if not hold Memphis, at least bloody the Romans enough that you have time to churn out more troops in Alexandria. Oh, and any money you have, use it to buy troops in Alexandria.

That would be my strategy I think, anyhow. Feel free to ignore or not as you wish, dear sir.  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on August 14, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Let's just hope the enemy forces try and all bundle their way through the main gate and get burnt to death by the oil. Archers should do terrible damage to given enough time.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 14, 2013, 03:55:04 PM
Imo it's best to take out the saps with fire arrows, they're easy to destroy and archers can hit them from atop battlements.

Rams usually get destroyed by the gate towers. This just leaves siege towers. For iron clad ones, archers are useless but ballistae towers can usually kill one just as the first unit is coming over the walls. For wooden ones, 4 units of archers focus firing it with fire arrows burns the tower before it hits the wall. Archers must be positioned correctly along the wall with as many getting direct shots at the target (i.e as many as close to the enemy side of the wall as humanly possible).

Attacking units that are fighting enemies squashed together such as in a gateway or along a street get a +4 attack bonus. This can be the difference between being able to kill Legionaries and being killed by them.

Hope that helps.

Source: Me (So don't rely on it completely. And note the words usually and can be)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 17, 2013, 09:29:33 PM
I agree with the above comments.

How's it going, Lord? :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on August 19, 2013, 05:37:15 PM
It's quiet... too quiet.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Paramythion on August 20, 2013, 07:09:25 AM
It is with deep regret that we must announce, due to unforeseeable circumstances that have arisen in Lord Blaiddmor's home city of
-name redacted-, in the glorious land of -name redacted-, he must withdraw indefinitely.
Orders are being drafted as I write, copies of his original instructions, to be dispatched immediately to whatever individual the esteemed Council deems suitable to take command.
At this time, it is unknown when he will be able to return, but he hopes his other obligations will not prove too lengthy, and that he will be back before too long, and ready to once again do the council's bidding in whatever foreign land they may then find themselves embroiled in. Once again, Lord Blaiddmor would like to express his very real regret at his sudden disappearance, and hopes it has not inconvenienced any of you too terribly.

Sincerely,
               Bob, Clerk of the Noble And Ancient House Of Blaiddmor

(Here there is a separate piece of parchment tacked on to the letter, considerably more ragged, blotched with ink and bloodstains, and written in a fine and elegant, but somewhat rushed, handwriting.)

Greetings, esteemed council members. Really not much time to write. Assault on the walls soon. Sitting outside the walls of -name smudged and illegible- waiting for my cousin -name smudged and illegible- to give up and admit I am the legitimate heir. Just have 10-20 more castles and several more cities to -several words scratched out- to convince peacefully of my ability to rule justly and fairly over all. Shouldn't take me too long, and I'll be back to your lovely city of Exilian. If any of you..

(Here the parchments is charred and illegible)

Sincerely,
               Lord Blaiddmor, One And Only True Heir Of The Ancient And Magnificent House Of Bladdmor
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on August 20, 2013, 10:49:54 AM
That makes it SOTK's go I believe.  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 20, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Sorry to hear that, Lord. :(

Rob can you forward the save file to Saw?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 29, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
Will try but I'm having problems sending atm. cg I sent it to you before Lord Blaiddmor, you still got it?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on August 29, 2013, 05:09:33 PM
No I don't see it anywhere. :(
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on August 29, 2013, 05:19:10 PM
M'kay no worries.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on September 03, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
Did it get sent on then? :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on September 07, 2013, 05:15:48 PM
Received and playing... Sautes is screwed :/ .
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on September 07, 2013, 05:44:25 PM
Good luck! You'll need it!  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on September 07, 2013, 05:49:51 PM
Yeah, the Roman frontier is a bad place xD
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on September 07, 2013, 11:28:37 PM
The Roman frontier is a bad place... as well as all the other frontiers.  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on September 18, 2013, 06:06:27 PM
Give Rome II a break Saw, so more patches can be released, and continue on with our glorious Thracian empire and relive the golden days of ye olde Rome. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on September 19, 2013, 03:52:53 PM
What the cowman said ^
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 04, 2013, 11:23:29 PM
So... Memphis is temporarily lost. On the plus side its counter attack time on the Egyptian front, and I just need to defeat the Scipii stack at Thebes before the road to Memphis is open again. In the process of rescuing this game a little ;D .
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 05, 2013, 01:44:13 AM
Hell yeah, way to keep it going. ;D
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 05, 2013, 12:38:09 PM
I hope nobody was too attached to Satres or Dizazelmis :P .
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 05, 2013, 01:16:51 PM
Dizzy was like a brother to me. I hope he died gloriously. :(
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 05, 2013, 03:27:51 PM
Rest assured, he did :) .
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on October 05, 2013, 04:03:50 PM
Anyone up for a WHTW swap?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 05, 2013, 06:54:59 PM
OK I'm done, who is next?

Roman Front

Memphis was lost (or maybe it was already Scipii, I can't remember). Sautes almost perished trying to reclaim it, but ended up in Thebes. Thebes was then besieged by a Scipii stack, and defended at the sad cost of Satres and 'Dizzy'. Then, as preparations for an attack on Memphis were being made, it rebelled back into our hands! The rest of the decade was then spent fighting off wave after wave of Scipii from the three cities in Egypt, whilst trying to raise something of an invasion force in between attacks. The Urbans arrived.

'Egypt' front

We are thankfully still at peace with Pontus, although Parthia are struggling a little against them. I saw an opportunity with the Egypt front, namely most of their force was wandering around, and therefore I quickly sent a couple of armies to capture Palmyra and Dumantha. After a couple of attempts at breaking the sieges by Egypt, the cities were ours and a good portion of the Egyptian army wiped out. Towards the end of the decade, the Egyptian king brought a full stack to Dumantha for a suicidal rush down the city streets. Sadly he escaped, although almost all of his army was killed. Egypt are ripe for the taking.

Other stuff, like advice

I sent a guy down to Egypt to help defend/prepare to counter attack, as well as getting a good sized army going in Jerusalem (pikes and archers and cavalry) to send down in the future for an offensive push. Sadly I never got around to doing this, but should maybe be a priority given the sheer number of armies pouring out of Scipii territory...

As I said above, Egypt are ripe for the taking. I'd recommend heading for Selucia via the army near Palmyra, and then their last city that isn't Salamis to finish them on the mainland. Salamis can be done when we are a little less stretched by Rome.

BY NO MEANS abandon the defences in the north, any sign of weakness there and I fear that Pontus will be waiting. They had some largish armies around Antioch most of the time. I would however try to remain at peace with them for as long as possible, to focus spending and effort on the Roman front.

Also the financial state is not good, since the sieges of the Egyptian cities ruined the income for most of my turn. However it is quite healthy when they are not besieged, giving yet another reason to try to push back against Rome.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 06, 2013, 02:38:56 AM
Do believe it's my turn then. :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 07, 2013, 04:07:21 PM
Sent it on :) .
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 09, 2013, 07:11:00 PM
Received. Will get on it as soon as I feel up to the task lay ahead.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on October 09, 2013, 11:45:31 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 13, 2013, 09:19:20 PM
Gotten around to anything yet?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 13, 2013, 09:50:52 PM
Took a look at the situation, currently in planning stage. :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 20, 2013, 07:06:57 PM
Welp.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 21, 2013, 10:14:51 AM
That sounds a lot like my exact turn... Did I send you the right file? xD
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on October 21, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
Rob's turn ended 190, so CG's should have ended in 170 not 180...

CG, do you want the "real" version from SOTK for another go, or shall I just carry on from the CG version?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 21, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
Scheisse. Scheisse. Scheisse.

I guess I'll have to do it again with the "real" version. :(
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 22, 2013, 05:34:37 PM
Which means someone will need to send it to me.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on October 22, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
SOTK?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on October 23, 2013, 01:56:14 PM
Sent it over :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on October 23, 2013, 01:59:11 PM
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Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on November 10, 2013, 12:14:48 AM
Alright then, finally got my real turn done.

Egypt is no more! Pontus is all along our northern border but they haven't made any signs of aggression.

The real problem still persists on the western front in the form of blue Romans.

Alexandria and Memphis continue to resist them successfully. Thebes was taken but can be retaken next turn.

On to Jubal!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on November 10, 2013, 07:49:19 PM
How have we survived! Magic happened I presume.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on November 12, 2013, 01:15:26 AM
I think all I have to say is "sorry I suck at this".

Or in long form:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Okay, so current situation:
- We've taken a hell of a lot of losses to the Brutii. Their troops are ridiculously well trained and they're throwing Urbans around like they're peasants. It's ridiculous. We have thus lost Sidon, Damascus, and Seleucia.
- We took Cyprus, and retook Thebes (the latter was a bit of a fluke, the former literally my only good move of this campaign section).
- Brinkazeis is on his ship near Antioch - he does have some mercenary forces, but I suspect what he really needs is more catapults and a lot more men. Antioch and Sidon both have tiny garrisons and the Brutii seem to like keeping their men in the field, so there are opportunities there, I just didn't manage to exploit them.
- Egypt is, as a front, going far better. There are still three Scip full stacks, all swarming Thebes, but Memphis and Alexandria are currently getting valuable breathing space. Also Memphis can now build catapults.
- Consider immediately sending out a large strike force to take Siwa - it's only got a few defending units and if we take it then the Nile valley is more or less safe until/unless the Scipii take it back.
- Next person could also send out an immediate strike from Jerusalem to Sidon, which also only has 2 defending units and can be reached within a turn so should be possible to snatch it before Brutii reinforcements arrive.
--> Or in other words, if we do all the strikes above we could get Sidon, Antioch, and Siwa, or none at all - but even one of them would be a huge help. We cannot afford to lose any more big cities, we need the money too badly and if we lose our ability to afford a war then it'll be the beginning of the end.
- In general, the tendency of the Roman factions to sometimes leave small garrisons is our only real hope, particularly against the Brutii, and even then defending will likely be very tough indeed. There's not much I can say that's comforting about our position really. The only potential light at the end of tunnel will come when the Roman Civil War begins - that might at least give us hope of either a draw-down of troops or even the war stalling/getting a ceasefire on one front.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on November 12, 2013, 02:15:57 PM
You did pretty well for the situation I think. At the very least your name isn't forever tarnished as the one who saw the defeat screen. :P

One note: you could have easily gotten 10,000 or more denarii from the Scips when they wanted you as a protectorate. Don't be afraid to ask. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on November 12, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
It was the Brutii who were the real problem. The Scipii are controllable; the Brutii have so many hyper-upgraded Urbans and suchlike that destroying their field armies is going to be a hell of a task. I think our only really good bet here is to sneak attack Antioch and Sidon, then pump up the garrisons and hold onto them for dear life.

Who am I sending this to?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on November 12, 2013, 05:21:41 PM
What happened to Pontus? xD
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on November 12, 2013, 05:40:48 PM
The Brutii happened to Pontus.  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on November 21, 2013, 05:06:38 PM
Seriously, who am I sending to?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on November 21, 2013, 06:56:29 PM
Rob. :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on November 22, 2013, 08:13:09 AM
Moi? Ehhksellent!!!!
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on November 22, 2013, 03:17:37 PM
Sent on  :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on November 22, 2013, 11:53:32 PM
Thanks! I'll be as quick as I can :D
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Will on November 24, 2013, 10:47:48 PM
Sorry I'm effectively out because of lack of access to a computer whilst at Uni. :(
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on December 02, 2013, 11:54:11 AM
I've been having some problems. Sorry it's taken so long, who gets it now?
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on December 02, 2013, 11:58:41 AM
SOTK, I'm fairly sure.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on December 09, 2013, 07:05:33 PM
So, how's it going? :)
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on December 09, 2013, 09:54:14 PM
I haven't got it yet :( .
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Clockwork on December 10, 2013, 08:57:30 PM
So sorry I had this feeling like I forgot something, been bugging me for days :S

I'll send it right away.
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Jubal on December 12, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
At least we're still alive?  :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on January 06, 2014, 06:53:33 PM
Saw? :(

Guess we'll have to start a Swap 2014 :P
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: Son of the King on January 11, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Sorry, I've been at MoD's for the last ages without my Rome CD D:
Title: Re: Swap 2013
Post by: comrade_general on January 11, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
Why on earth does MoD NOT have a Rome CD?!?!?! :P