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ahowl11:
Alright team, it's time to get down to some serious business. We have had a lot of discussion and ideas lately and now it's time to organize it all into a set plan for our next public release. Here I will lay out the order in which I'd like to continue the mod for a 1.0 version.

0.6
Delete All ahistorical units
Completely Remove Senate from game
Remove Scipii, and Brutii from campaign
Convert Thrace to Illyria
Convert Britons to Celtic Tribes
Change Egypt to Ptolemaic Empire *Should the culture stay Egyptian or should we make them Greek?
Change Spain to Iberia
Change Scythia to Sarmatia
Rename romans_julii, romans_brutii, romans_scipii, and romans_senate to rome, hellenic_kingdoms, greek_states, and independent_peoples
Edit descr_strat accordingly

0.7
Add in New Faction units (Depending on the availability of Algaman and TBTWB we could end up adding premade units.. I am hoping that while we work on 0.6 that they can be making the new units for 0.7)
Edit Mercenary Pools
Start editing Economy
Add new culture: Nomad, for Sarmatia

0.8
Add in New Mercenary Units
Create AOR system
Start adding in new traits/ancillaries
Continue editing Economy
Add Loyalty

0.9
Add in New AOR units
Start adding government system
Continue adding traits/ancillaries
Continue editing economy
Add Hording

1.0
Finish Government system
Finish Traits/ancillaries
Finish Economy

Also, in between all of these versions we can continue to look for mini mods and other things, like EB's Egyptian/Seleucid Portrait pack, Milners African Portraits, V.T. Marvins Spoils of War etc

Let me know your thoughts. Agree? Disagree?

Bercor:
Seems like a good plan.

Ptolemaic Empire culture should be greek. Giving them the egyptian culture would be both unhistorical and stupid, because we would be wasting a culture slot.

ahowl11:
Okay that means we will have an unused culture which we could make Nomad. However this means that we would need to change all the buildings etc for the Nomad culture. It would be advanced work.
I also have had the idea of making Iberia part of the Carthaginian culture.

Bercor:
You might want to talk with an Iberian history specialist for that.

Solon de Atenas:
We are in the same point, I mean, now we should change internal names for some faction and create new cultures in RTRA III.

hmmm about iberian. I think that I can help...

Iberian property was people who lived in mediterranean costline from Gades to Emproion. Almost the entire andalusian region was iberian people homeland and currently provinces of Valencia and Cataluña. These peoples were the most ancient people of iberian peninsula and they was the most involved too. Iberian peoples had a huge influence of phoenicians and greek because they had trading by hundred years between them.

The problem is, what tribe do you want to create to RTR? Because, the entire peninsula hadn´t a common culture like gaul peoples. In spain there are three kind of ethnic groups. Iberian property, Celtiberian and Celtic peoples.

Celtiberian and Celtic peoples in Iberian peninsula are difficult to explain because they aren´t celtc property for a few and very importants reasons. The first is that they belong to ancient migrations before hallsthatt, so, they are indoeuropean peoples and slightly similar to gaulish but they aren´t...

So, Celtic peoples of iberian peninsula like Lusitanians or Galacians, asturian, etc are indoeuropean peoples that they arrived before hallsthat cultures and other european celtic cultures. The group know like celtiberian have the same problem but this, in addition its influenced by iberian culture.

And iberian culture is a original culture from iberian peninsula but its the most influenciated by phoenicians and greeks.

Obviously, gaul peoples were influences by greeks in ancient times (greek pottery in gaul, etc), but iberian peoples were totally modified by them...

Exampkles of iberian, celtiberian and celtic peoples in spain:

Iberian: turdetani, bastetani, edetani, south-carpetani, etc
celtiberian: celtiberi, carpetani-north, vaccei, arevaci, etc
Celtic: lusitani, galacians, asturians, etc

Vasci??? The origing of vascii tribe ist unknow and strongly disscuss...
in my opinion was people proto-iberian. the reason is that there are iberian culture places in aquitania region, but these places were isolated from phoenician and greek influence (costline). For this, Vascii peoples and other ancient iberian tribes from atlantic costline were isolated and ceturies later, seem different from iberian peoples from mediterranean costline.

So, celtic and celtiberian can use barbarian culture but iberian its a problem because carthaginian culture is wrong, greek culture is wrong and barbarian is wrong. Iberian should be:

Postraits: Mix beetween barbarian and greek portraits.
Houses: Like carthaginian tipology but white colour and with greek/barbarian cityplan
Temples and art: totally new but with greek influence

for now, its all.

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