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Art, Writing, and Learning: The Clerisy Quarter => Discussion and Debate - The Philosopher's Plaza => Topic started by: Jubal on November 05, 2008, 10:08:13 PM

Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Jubal on November 05, 2008, 10:08:13 PM
QuoteAlthough the intellectual movement called "The Enlightenment" is usually associated with the 18th century, its roots in fact go back much further. But before we explore those roots, we need to define the term. This is one of those rare historical movements which in fact named itself. Certain thinkers and writers, primarily in London and Paris, believed that they were more enlightened than their compatriots and set out to enlighten them.

     They believed that human reason could be used to combat ignorance, superstition, and tyranny and to build a better world. Their principal targets were religion (embodied in France in the Catholic Church) and the domination of society by a hereditary aristocracy.

Is it just me, or do we need more of this around today? Discuss.
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Goldyrulz on November 06, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

i dont know...
someone enlighten me... (get it!)
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Gen_Glory on November 06, 2008, 11:06:38 PM
you know i always thought enlightenment is a buddhist thing
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Andalus on November 07, 2008, 03:40:50 PM
QuoteIs it just me, or do we need more of this around today? 

I don't see why. Except perhaps the ignorance bit.
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Jubal on November 07, 2008, 06:05:09 PM
Basically the idea of enligntenment (in the philosophical, not Bhuddist religous sense) is that we can use rational thought, science and reason to work out the best and fairest way to make sure the world is run smoothly.

Compare with the following;
- American lobbyists and Iranian fundamentalists (among others) who believe that we shoudl run our lives in fear of hell
- Politicians who ignore the science to pander to scaremongering or anti-science by the tabloids
- Tabloids who portray said antiscience as fact

There is a lot of room for academia to inform governement and it is just being ignored. Also, there is equally a lot of room for rationality to supersede idocy.
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Pentagathus on November 14, 2008, 07:48:12 PM
Yet it will never work so whats the point? Being fair isn't in the interests of many people.
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Jubal on November 15, 2008, 10:37:55 PM
The point is to do the best we can. That always has to be the point, or we may as welll all throw ourselves out of second floor windows tomorow.
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Bridgeburner on July 19, 2009, 01:25:40 PM
I think you meant to say American right-wing, evangelical, hate gays, blacks, latinos, foreigners (note here that all americans are foreigners it is just a matter of how far back you look) and anyone who believes the world to be older than 6000 years...ists, not lobbyists.
Title: The Enlightenment
Post by: Jubal on July 19, 2009, 01:36:11 PM
Probably, yea.