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Title: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: BrokenIronSights on February 14, 2015, 10:56:26 AM
Hey guys! I see a bunch of "favorite character" threads, but nothing on our favorite factions. I'll give it a start.

Good: Rohan: Something about Pagan horseman I can't get over.
Evil: The men of Rhun: Evil Persian samurai? Yes please!

Now it's your turn!

Jeff
 :orc:
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Pentagathus on February 14, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
I'm always drawn to the less well described peoples because I like a bit of mystery and I can use my imagination a lot more. So in that terms I would go for maybe the peeps of Dorwinion for good guys (if they are good guys?) or the good people of Eriador and Angmar for bad guys or the not so good people of Rhovanion. In terms of the better described bigger players its got to be Dale for the good guys and I really don't know about the bad ones, probably the orcs of the misty mountains though.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Jubal on February 14, 2015, 01:40:47 PM
I was going to say Dorwinions for the good guys, though I think the Broadbeams (dwarves of Belegost) probably narrowly beat them out as my favourites. Because DRAGONPROOF HATS.

As for "bad guys" (or as I like to think of them, "misunderstood guys with difficult childhoods" :P ), I think Umbar under the House of Castamir is a good shout. An obviously "bad" faction but also still very Numenorian and human and not under Sauronic domination.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Clockwork on February 14, 2015, 05:43:07 PM
High Elves, well, they pretty much do everything better than anyone else. Kinda overpowered imo.

For bad guys? Hobbits. Squirrely thieving bastards with their hairy feet and drug addiction. One or two good hobbits don't make them a 'good' faction.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: BrokenIronSights on February 14, 2015, 06:50:35 PM
A lot of minor factions being called out, I like it.

Are you implying "Pipe-weed" is a drug, sir?! It's simply recreation, not a habbit.  O0

Jeff  :orc:
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Clockwork on February 14, 2015, 07:12:06 PM
 :balrog: he's the real good guy. Just chilling (metaphorically), living in his pit of fire until some muppet trespasser drops a bucket on his head, who wouldn't be mad? Which faction was this muppet from I wonder? Yup, nasty little hobbitses.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: BrokenIronSights on February 14, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
I'll accept your argument, however I don't believe that the filthy fat hobbitses are inherently evil. They do tend to act as instigators often enough.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Jubal on February 15, 2015, 01:48:41 AM
To be fair, the Balrog did a fair amount of breaking and entering, if we're going into the legalities of the situation.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Clockwork on February 15, 2015, 05:18:23 PM
Allegedly! Mr Rog says he found Moria unlocked and open, but that was all in the past and he's had squatters rights for half an era now.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: BrokenIronSights on February 15, 2015, 05:25:11 PM
Ahh yes! I believe those rights were enacted by the famous "Smaug v Stunty" case of the second age. :) 
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Jubal on February 15, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
There is, however, no statute of limitations on murder :P
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Clockwork on February 15, 2015, 11:46:52 PM
Mr Rog pleads self defense. In the unfortunate brawl that took place within Moria the diminutive and jealous folk of Durin ruthlessly attacked Mr Rog in a display of violence all too common among the short peoples. Was it not they who also instigated the 'War of Dwarves and Orcs'?
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: Jubal on February 16, 2015, 01:09:26 AM
No, it wasn't. My clients in turn plead that the aforementioned war has no impact upon the case, and that in any case it was the beheading of someone who, as heir of Durin's line, had diplomatic immunity, that started the aforementioned war.

Furthermore, they wish to register as an objection that collective guilt by species is, rightly, not a recognised legal principle, and thus whilst it may have been legal for Mr Rog to exercise self defence over invaders of his home who delved too greedily and too deep, his subsequent breaking and entering of the upper halls of Moria was in itself illegal, as was his targeting and killing of craftsmen who were entirely uninvolved in the initial dispute.
Title: Re: Favorite faction of Middle Earth
Post by: comrade_general on February 16, 2015, 02:04:13 AM
Mr. Rog has brought someone who can make a statement which agrees with his case.

Dr. Saruman, make your statement.

"The Dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... shadow and flame."