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Title: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on November 07, 2015, 01:29:25 PM

Even if you have no interest in fps I'd say watch the trailer, it's literally pixar quality animation.

It's a new multi-player FPS from Blizzard. Anyone who watches any gamer on youtube will probably know what it is.

If you don't, simply put it's a multiplayer fps with extra mechanics in the form of character abilities which can range from teleport and revert time to landmines and rocket salvos. It's still a really easy to learn game due to the easy shooting mechanics and the clearly defined roles of which there are 4. Offensive characters are great at getting close and doing damage, defense are good at holding choke points, creating area of denial and long range attacks, the tanks are good at soaking damage in one way or another and the support focus on healing, shielding or armouring. Actually that was a longer explanation than I wanted.

A lot of people were expecting this game to be f2p with skins being the only paid for item. I was always a little skeptical of this, the game's been in development since 2011 I believe? I know it uses some of the things from the cancelled MMORPG Titan anyway. Anyway at Blizzcon they revealed it'd cost £45 or your region equivalent. Guild Wars 2 did the same and it's done well, originally TF2 was paid for (which the game is being compared with relentlessly). I don't have any fear that it'll kill Overwatch at all.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on March 23, 2016, 04:40:49 PM


Monkey scientist creates gadget with the help of an AI. OMG baby monkey is portugaling adorable!
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on March 23, 2016, 11:17:35 PM
Just watched both trailers. I did enjoy them, especially "recall" - the small kid in the first one got a bit vexing, as did the slightly cheesy catchphrase-spouting - but despite them being fun animations I felt they didn't hit me with any good unique selling points for the setting beyond being a pretty and well animated superhero-ish thing. Is there a lot more depth that I'm missing?
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on March 24, 2016, 01:57:33 PM
It's a cheese-fest, though I think that's partly on purpose and partly because it's ingrained in Blizzard. The setting is that robots rose up and nearly destroyed humanity in omnic crisis. The Overwatch initiative was formed to combat this, which they succeded in doing. Afterwards the initiative was disbanded and the agents forbidden from forming another group, primarily if I understand it right, because they housed the best combatants, scientists and doctors on earth and secondly because they didn't have anyone to answer to.


The evil guy with two shotguns in both vids is hunting the former members of Overwatch for as of yet unknown reasons, the doomhammer doomfist (doomhammer is a weapon from warcraft, created by the same Chris Metzen) in the first one is a weapon that Overwatch members are trying to keep out of everyones hands (why it's in a museum in a glass case is anyones guess though) and the 2 trying to steal it are assassins working for an organisation called Talon I think.


There's a ton of lore that's placed all around the levels and through what the different characters say to each other during games. As well as on the website I mean. http://eu.battle.net/overwatch/en/ (http://eu.battle.net/overwatch/en/)
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on March 26, 2016, 11:12:49 PM
Read up the lore - yeah, seems pretty standard cheesefest stuff, not bad but not enough to get me to play an FPS!
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on March 26, 2016, 11:45:46 PM
haha fair enough. If you change your mind though, this will be the one to start with I'd say ;)
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on April 02, 2016, 07:14:34 PM


People are weird. The characters in Overwatch are so damn diverse, they have old people, young people, thin, fat, bald, hirsute, psychopath, scientist, sexy, ugly, chinese, english, australian, german and people complain about a single pose. Once again, portugal gamers, they're ruining gaming.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on April 02, 2016, 10:33:01 PM
Eh, humanity is ruined by humans a lot of the time, it's a more general problem.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on April 02, 2016, 11:04:54 PM
Yeah but priorities mate ;)
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on April 02, 2016, 11:19:02 PM
Hah, I guess. Sorry, having A Very Bad Day Indeed.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on April 05, 2016, 09:27:21 PM
Mooooar


Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on April 06, 2016, 06:03:51 PM
Aw, she killed robo-Jesus (idk who that is but Robo-Jesus seems like the right approximation. Or at least like Robo-JFK, or at worst Robo-Nick Clegg :P )

I hope we get some of the other characters in the shorts, we've only had like four appear so far.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on April 06, 2016, 09:50:37 PM
Yeah I'd like to see more D.Va, Reinhardt and Lúcio.


More like robot Buddha I think, that particular political faction is all about harmony and oneness.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 18, 2016, 10:35:51 AM

New animated short! :)
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 18, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
Yeah I really liked this one :D


The Japanese shouted before unleashing the dragons means 'Dragon will consume you' from Hanzo and 'I have sacrificed my body, I will not sacrifice my soul' from Genji.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 18, 2016, 11:18:42 PM
Ah, nice :)

But yes, these are nice character backstory things. I wonder if things like this would actually be effective as ways to pre-promote backstory for lower-graphics games, or if the high quality animation is actually necessary.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 19, 2016, 01:03:39 AM
I wonder if things like this would actually be effective as ways to pre-promote backstory for lower-graphics games, or if the high quality animation is actually necessary.


EDIT: I'll do a TL:DR.


Well, one important thing to remember when asking if this will work for someone else is that Blizzard has an excellent reputation and a gigantic fanbase, like 20 million fans. At the start of the clip there is the Blizzard logo and I think that inspires confidence and hype in the viewer before the clip even really begins. Blizzard does pretty much everything they do to a really high standard, lately their stories have been armadillo but I digress; their animation is great but also they create memorable characters, setting and styles (although you could argue they create that one). To answer your question though: I think it would depend. If one were to make, say, an 8-bit version of that animated short I think it would work absolutely fine as long as it didn't have the Blizzard logo on.


TL:DR - Yeah.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 19, 2016, 03:31:47 AM
Well...This is weird but....Awesome? Maybe?


In a promo event for Overwatch on May 25th world class footballers and 4 youtubers play against Rufus Hound, Jamal Edwards, 2 members of the yogscast a gaming newsperson and a playstation community manager... Ummm. Okay.


They doing the same thing in Holland on the 30th.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 19, 2016, 09:59:52 AM
There is that, though outside the fanbase that matters less, I barely registered the logo and company when watching the shorts but still found them engaging (and would have been an incentive to get the game if it was something more towards my playstyle).

I'm not sure if that's great or just odd, it's certainly an interesting stunt. I guess for me I have relatively little engagement with those people so I wouldn't be massively hyped for it.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 19, 2016, 05:07:37 PM
Yeah it's an odd mix of people. Don't think I'll watch it anyway tbh.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Gmd on May 20, 2016, 04:17:44 PM
Played it pretty much all last week during the free beta. Really fun game espeically playing with my friends. Characters are all fun and very different. I would definitely buy it, but the price of £35 for a online only game with ONE gamemode is a cazy price to ask. Max i'd pay for it is about £20 so im hoping they change the pricing in the future so i can get it.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 20, 2016, 04:34:00 PM
I hadn't realised there wasn't an offline mode. Is there no storyline campaign? Seems a bit of a waste not to create one after all the effort backstorying the characters...
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 20, 2016, 11:10:32 PM
I find that an odd way of thinking Gmd, you get like 99% of the hours out of an FPS from the multiplayer compared with SP. Not having a single player just loses 1% of content.


There's also 3 game modes, payload, capture and king of the hill. Aside from that there's custom games and there's the challenge mode which changes weekly.



Aand, blizz don't really change prices £30 is what it'll cost for the forseeable future.


@Jub, Creating characters people want to play means that you have to create backstory. It's generally regarded as to why Battleborn and the like haven't done as well as Overwatch, the lore is paper thin. Also I feel like singleplayer story might come out as separate DLC somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 20, 2016, 11:33:08 PM
Yeah, I'm sure it's necessary to have nice backstory regardless - just for me as a gamer I then want to be part of or get more of a viewpoint on that story I guess. But then I'm not exactly a natural FPS player. :P
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 23, 2016, 12:02:55 AM
And here we have what is sadly apparently the last short we're going to get (at least for now!)

"Hero", featuring Soldier: 76...

Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 23, 2016, 01:02:48 AM
I like that they play Lucio's music from their truck :D
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on May 31, 2016, 10:14:45 PM
I've not really heard what people are saying about this now it's out... I did see an actual real-world flier for it lying in the street recently!
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on May 31, 2016, 11:58:12 PM
Everyone loves it pretty much. The people leaving negative reviews on RT and Metacritic are salty about having to pay for a game and that it isn't TF2. Otherwise it gets almost universal praise. Average critic reviews are 92%. Not that I like review scores but there it is. Easy, fast and superficial metric.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on June 03, 2016, 03:22:59 AM
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/06/02/overwatch-hits-7-million-players
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on November 04, 2016, 06:33:05 PM
Don't have the game still. But look, more pretty animations! :)

Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Gmd on November 06, 2016, 02:22:09 AM
I love overwatch. It's currently my favourite fps multiplayer game. Strongly recommend, all characters have a different feel and are fun. Just watched all of blizzcon when this character trailer was released. Was real cool, but blizzard really messed up their pre advertising for this. With my housemates spending hours translating code to follow sombras build up story. A very poorly handled and overly teasing release for something leaked months ago and was just released at blizzcon.
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Clockwork on November 06, 2016, 03:05:32 AM
The 'ARG' was rubbish. Follow this link to this place. Aha clever you, now follow this link to this other place... gj blizz :P


I still don't have the game either, played the beta and that was enough for me. For some reason I'm the 1% that really like the characters but dislike the gameplay :/
Title: Re: Overwatch
Post by: Jubal on November 10, 2016, 11:57:31 PM
I'm probably also in that 1%, but I don't play FPS games to start with :P