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Title: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 01, 2020, 08:40:53 PM
Thought this should be a regular thread to go with what are you reading and equivalents.





My most recent playing attempt was psychonauts, which I found find but I just don't like platforming that much that I want to do a whole game of it, I think. Pillars of Eternity is probably next on the list, though I may buy CK3 as that's out and meant to be good.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Gmd on September 02, 2020, 04:03:51 PM
Good idea, currently been playing the surge 2, just to try get my dark soulsy fix while i wait until eldren ring news lol. Nice game i recommend for any dark souls combat fans.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 18, 2020, 05:15:07 PM
Now doing Pillars of Eternity and really enjoying it. Like, probably not enough that I'll get the expansions, but it's got a good feel to it and I love this sort of pausable semi-tactical combat (as long as I only play it on normal mode: I'm dying every once in a while but it's about the right level of frustration for me).
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Clockwork on September 18, 2020, 07:14:54 PM
Ahhh that's so cool Jub!

Pillars is one of my favourite games! It took me the longest time to get into it though :)

What kind of character have you made/ are you making?

The expansion is actually better than the base game imo, it has the gameplay which is fine but the story and the encounters are so much more varied, diplomacy is more of a thing, if you do end up getting 50-60% of the way through and think 'I like my character but wish there was something else to do' then I'd recommend it!


I'm playing Necromunda: Underhive Wars. It's about as flawed as Mordheim but is prettier so.... yay?
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 18, 2020, 11:46:40 PM
I've got an orlan wizard. Playing him as generally compassionate and benevolent, but also quite passionately sciencey and takes everything quite literally so I've got a pretty high honest rep. (I was a bit sad there was no bard class available, I do admit). I'm not that well built, in that my wizard has all the close combat wizard options - lots of good spells for a wizard who wants to fake being good in toe to toe melee - but I tend to take parties that have really good CC capacity so I end up being ranged support but not ideal at it.

I think if I ever play another character I'll download White March and do it with a ranger.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Irongutz on September 19, 2020, 12:08:00 AM
I've been resuming the finishing of my unpainted miniatures! I've also been playing a hearty amount of Space Hulk Death-wing
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Clockwork on September 19, 2020, 07:00:51 PM
@Jub

That's awesome! Did you not like the chanter class? In my mind they're actually one of the best implementation of bards in a video game despite not being called as such. Creating phrases to make a verse which causes spell effects evokes a real groundedness to them imo.

@Baragon - I have deathwing too and enjoyed it immensely, was a bit hard solo for some of it though, and playing it with dodgy headphones was funny because all the enemies came from my right (the working headphone) lol
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Irongutz on September 19, 2020, 11:50:32 PM
@Jub

That's awesome! Did you not like the chanter class? In my mind they're actually one of the best implementation of bards in a video game despite not being called as such. Creating phrases to make a verse which causes spell effects evokes a real groundedness to them imo.

@Baragon - I have deathwing too and enjoyed it immensely, was a bit hard solo for some of it though, and playing it with dodgy headphones was funny because all the enemies came from my right (the working headphone) lol

Oh yeah, have you played it since they published the Enhanced Edition? much of it has been polished up
I don't think the game was really made to be playable solo haha, atleast all my own attempts have failed - Lately there's been a lot of new players which is great though; one thing I like doing in games is showing new players the ropes and giving them an encouraging NPE! I just wish some of the armour skins you could buy let you reskin as various other chapters...
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 20, 2020, 11:18:04 PM
@Jub

That's awesome! Did you not like the chanter class? In my mind they're actually one of the best implementation of bards in a video game despite not being called as such. Creating phrases to make a verse which causes spell effects evokes a real groundedness to them imo.

Oh, I love the chanter class, I agree it's mechanically fantastic. I guess I just didn't feel they had the aesthetic/atmosphere I wanted from a true bard class in terms of e.g. spell selection? They felt much more like "here are our solemn mystic chants" than "here are our swishy fun minstrel songs" if that makes sense. Though maybe that's partly just my feelings from Kana as a character and I could make a more bard-ish chanter as a PC.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Clockwork on September 21, 2020, 12:18:31 AM
@Baragon - Ha, it's not the smoothest ride I'll grant you, but yes, doable as solo! I actually only played it since the enhanced edition was released, I never experienced the joys of regular edition :)

I've not really played much more than the main story though, personally vermintide is more my speed with regards to setting. I still fire up deathwing every now and then though :P

@ Jub - Ah okay I see what you mean and I agree. Kana, yeah. He's a historian with a potentially very pessimistic outlook depending on how you talk to him.

I actually did just that, a smartass dwarf. For me his standout chants were At the Sight of their Comrades, their Hearts Grew Bold (https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/At_the_Sight_of_their_Comrades,_their_Hearts_Grew_Bold), The Fox from the Farmer Did Run and Leap (https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/The_Fox_from_the_Farmer_Did_Run_and_Leap) (kinda useless but seemed limerick-ey) and The Dragon Thrashed, The Dragon Wailed (https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/The_Dragon_Thrashed,_The_Dragon_Wailed) I think but I can't remember the third phrase tbh. I suspect it would be that one though. I got chased a lot to use the fox chant. I think I used a crossbow but maybe a pistol?

For me, Pillars strength is in the dialogue choices, so many of them add the character which gives you that clear image and sound of your character. Mechanically, I found my island-bound barbarian king and psychic detective easiest to get abilities for which suited them both thematically and mechanically, all others were difficult to get the two to match. Druids are mixed. Clerics and paladins are easy actually but they're quite... restricted I find? Durance is a great companion though, some of the best lines along with Aloth and Eder.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Irongutz on September 21, 2020, 12:43:43 AM
Ah yes, the joys of your game crashing when someone holds down fire with their flamethrower and helicopters around the room haha
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 21, 2020, 02:36:53 PM
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He's a historian with a potentially very pessimistic outlook depending on how you talk to him.
I knew there was something I liked about him. ;)

And yeah, I hate Durance, but the fact that I have strong feelings about him is testament to him being well written (at low levels nobody in my party had good mechanics skill and I would sometimes trap hunt by just walking Durance down corridors, that's how much I dislike the man). I think my favourite companion is probably either Sagani or Pallegina, I found them both quite narratively compelling (and more easy to empathise with than Eder or Aloth).
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Clockwork on September 21, 2020, 07:12:19 PM
Haha yeah true!

Mhm, my characters on the whole didn't like Durance but accepted him as a force of nature or once, dove into his soul bearing it for him to see and caused revelations of his own worth and being... Being emotionally psychic sometimes has it's perks!
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 23, 2020, 10:54:24 AM
I've not tried just hiring random adventurers yet. Presumably they have like no interactions at all?

Also, I'm taking a break from the game for a week or so I think. I got completely stuck on the Adra dragon (I can see ways you're meant to kill it, but it seems like tbh even if you do the tactics perfectly you still only have a fairly low chance of pulling it off: having an enemy monster which if it plays optimally genuinely cannot lose against your top level party feels OTT).
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: dubsartur on September 23, 2020, 07:26:13 PM
I got stuck on ... what was that oughties D&D computer game with a built-in level builder?  Neverwinter Nights? in a similar situation: a boss fight which I could not win but the alternative path was unacceptable
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 23, 2020, 10:12:39 PM
Duly completed the game. Mostly got the endings I wanted with the one glaring exception of getting quite a bad result for Sagani, who given she was about my favourite NPC was a bit of a bugger to say the least. But having looked it up, it was kind of hard to reconcile the ways to get better outcomes with the sort of character I was trying to play :/
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Irongutz on September 24, 2020, 07:38:46 AM
I played some Dawn Of War with a friend recently, great experience

I still hold the same criticism of the game series not having co-op campaigns in the first set of expansions but otherwise terrific!
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Phoenixguard09 on September 24, 2020, 03:44:08 PM
Bought a  brand new gaming laptop a few months back. Been nothing but trouble. Thankfully it is under warranty and I am getting a replacement shipped, but in tried and tested fashion, my technology curse has struck once more.

Was having a lot of fun playing Warhammer Total War and The Isle, in amidst inarticulate rage as the machine would freeze and crash intermittently.

EDIT* Baragon, the original Dawn of War, and specifically the Dark Crusade expansion, was the high point of the series for me. Remains one of my favourite games.

Also my first foray into modding, way back in the day.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Clockwork on September 25, 2020, 11:03:19 PM
Duly completed the game. Mostly got the endings I wanted with the one glaring exception of getting quite a bad result for Sagani, who given she was about my favourite NPC was a bit of a bugger to say the least. But having looked it up, it was kind of hard to reconcile the ways to get better outcomes with the sort of character I was trying to play :/


Yeah I didn't want to say earlier as you hadn't completed it then but unforunately the Sagani quest is a bit of a let down. And I realise that's the point of it but I walked away from it going 'well that was rubbish' rather than 'huh, yeah I guess that's life'. Also the Hiravis quest is weird and grieving mother is all round bad imo.

As you say, hiring randomers has no impact on the game whatsoever, aside from the Rp you give them internally (mine were the crew of my pirate ship :D)

Pillars 2 is leagues ahead of 1 in terms of companion interaction. Unfortunately, it has it's own problems but they mostly revolve around none of the factions being likeable and the main quest being the least interesting part of the game and the pirating minigames being the most fun. It does have full turn based mode, and the spells are *so* much better, like night and day.

The Arda dragon, you can bypass it entirely by letting it possess a dragon hunter or I found it's not so bad with a large amount of crowd control spells like paralyse. I think I brought eder, aloth, durance, grieving mother and probably sagani. Eder, aloth and durance are must haves imo, regardless of player character class.

The xpac makes the fight a ton easier though as you can level higher and get more soulbound weapons which are the most powerful in the game. Some nutcases have done the whole game on max difficulty, solo, ironman. Like... Why? Why do that to yourself?

Did you meet the archwizards at all? I can't remember if that was basegame or xpac. Llengrath and Concelhaut (sp?)
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Irongutz on September 26, 2020, 12:54:55 AM

EDIT* Baragon, the original Dawn of War, and specifically the Dark Crusade expansion, was the high point of the series for me. Remains one of my favourite games.

Also my first foray into modding, way back in the day.

What sort of mod work did you do? is it difficult? most of the dev kit they used for it seems kind of alien for me
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: dubsartur on September 28, 2020, 06:04:07 PM
Athena Scalzi also has a post complaining that she feels like a lot of big commercial games today set the difficulty too high for players with a couple of hours a week to play.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on September 29, 2020, 11:43:18 PM
Duly completed the game. Mostly got the endings I wanted with the one glaring exception of getting quite a bad result for Sagani, who given she was about my favourite NPC was a bit of a bugger to say the least. But having looked it up, it was kind of hard to reconcile the ways to get better outcomes with the sort of character I was trying to play :/


Yeah I didn't want to say earlier as you hadn't completed it then but unforunately the Sagani quest is a bit of a let down. And I realise that's the point of it but I walked away from it going 'well that was rubbish' rather than 'huh, yeah I guess that's life'. Also the Hiravis quest is weird and grieving mother is all round bad imo.

As you say, hiring randomers has no impact on the game whatsoever, aside from the Rp you give them internally (mine were the crew of my pirate ship :D)

Pillars 2 is leagues ahead of 1 in terms of companion interaction. Unfortunately, it has it's own problems but they mostly revolve around none of the factions being likeable and the main quest being the least interesting part of the game and the pirating minigames being the most fun. It does have full turn based mode, and the spells are *so* much better, like night and day.

The Arda dragon, you can bypass it entirely by letting it possess a dragon hunter or I found it's not so bad with a large amount of crowd control spells like paralyse. I think I brought eder, aloth, durance, grieving mother and probably sagani. Eder, aloth and durance are must haves imo, regardless of player character class.

The xpac makes the fight a ton easier though as you can level higher and get more soulbound weapons which are the most powerful in the game. Some nutcases have done the whole game on max difficulty, solo, ironman. Like... Why? Why do that to yourself?

Did you meet the archwizards at all? I can't remember if that was basegame or xpac. Llengrath and Concelhaut (sp?)

I don't think the archwizards are in the base game, I certainly didn't meet them. I did have a soulbound magic sceptre thing which was pretty cool. IIRC Adra dragon is immune to paralyse but not to petrify - I could just never get the petrify spells to land, I had two wizards chucking petrifies at it and no dice at any point. I'm sure I must have been doing some stuff pretty wrong regardless since I struggled to take down the xaurips and adragans with any speed given their healing capabilities, probably I tended to keep my party too immobile for some of the rougher fights. I do think the Adra dragon wasn't a well made fight though - I mean I get it's kind of nice to have some uber hard challenges, but that was just painful and also really overshadowed the comparative cakewalk of the final boss.

I agree Hiravias' quest was weird, the end fight of it seemed to come very much from nowhere and it seemed like a way to push you round more of the Glanfathan areas in a slightly disjointed fashion. Which is a pity, because I liked Hiravias (not least getting some interesting insight as to how my own character would be seen as a fellow Orlan). I actually sort of liked Grieving Mother, she was creepy-weird and her "quest" felt a bit "sit here and talk through the very obvious options and reach conclusions that you're railroaded towards", but the concept was interesting. Sagani's quest... I see what they were trying to do and I don't dislike the concept, I just think the execution of it needed way more build-up and clarity and actually reaction after the event? Like the let-down of the final point on the quest felt like a midpoint in her emotional arc but it's then just cut off weirdly. The let-down wasn't per se a problem (arguably pretty much all the companion quests confound expectations a bit like that - Kana, Eder, and Aloth certainly all fail to find the certainties they were looking for), but I was rattled by the fact that she had such a grim ending and the game I felt never really flagged up to me that that was even a remote likelihood.

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Athena Scalzi also has a post complaining that she feels like a lot of big commercial games today set the difficulty too high for players with a couple of hours a week to play.
Got a link? I'd be interested to read. I generally don't feel or find this, though I think a lot of big commercial games do assume a lot of time commitment, I'd say the issue is less difficulty and more just speed of plot advancement, if I had just 2hrs/week on an average modern RPG I suspect it'd take me pretty much a year to get through it. Difficulty, well, most games do have an easy setting, though in some cases I think they could put in an easier one, and I often take a dislike to any game which tries to nudge you into not playing on easy.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: dubsartur on September 30, 2020, 06:23:29 PM
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Athena Scalzi also has a post complaining that she feels like a lot of big commercial games today set the difficulty too high for players with a couple of hours a week to play.
Got a link? I'd be interested to read. I generally don't feel or find this, though I think a lot of big commercial games do assume a lot of time commitment, I'd say the issue is less difficulty and more just speed of plot advancement, if I had just 2hrs/week on an average modern RPG I suspect it'd take me pretty much a year to get through it. Difficulty, well, most games do have an easy setting, though in some cases I think they could put in an easier one, and I often take a dislike to any game which tries to nudge you into not playing on easy.
'Twas Get Gud, Scrub (https://whatever.scalzi.com/2020/09/25/get-gud-scrub/).  Scalzi is one of those sites whose URL I don't save because a lot of the posts are angry American or UK political / culture war stuff, although he's certainly a lot calmer than many other people today. 
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on October 09, 2020, 12:02:08 PM
Been back to playing CK3 a fair bit over the past week, playing as East Anglia since the W European stuff is currently the best developed part of the game (AIUI there'll be DLCs to expand on a lot of the other areas).

Been a fairly mad game. England never formed, the Kingdom of Alba became dominant across the British mainland and I joined the Kingdom of West Francia to defend from them - which then turned into the Empire of Francia and is now the main West European power. A sub-branch of my house became Emperors at one point which gave the Empire the "Saxon Elective Monarchy" law so it's now an elector-Empire. Byzantium exploded across the map and was really hyper-dominant, including a brief period in control of Francia, reaching the Baltic, and getting close to the Gulf of Guinea - I think Songhay are still Orthodox Christians as a result in this setting. Religion has also been chaos, there was a big Cathar period though that's died down, Insular (that is, Celtic) Christianity is the major faith in the British Isles and also in southern Germany, Austria, the northern Balkans, and bits of eastern Europe. As it stands I've just finally broken through and taken the Kingdom of England for my house off the Albans (still within the Empire of Francia) and also founded my new sect of Pantoleonism which is basically "Insular christianity but we legalised witchcraft and homosexuality and made the gender laws equal".

I definitely need to write some stuff about CK3's mechanics, maybe for The Public Medievalist or something - there's a lot of good stuff there but also some really awkward bits (hyper-absolutist approaches to religion, breeding congential intelligence into families, other things which are kinda dodgy like that).
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Munz6 on November 11, 2020, 02:47:48 PM
I am playing now Dragon age as I am working now remotely and chilling with this game
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on November 11, 2020, 08:29:33 PM
Ooh, which of the Dragon Age series?
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Munz6 on November 12, 2020, 10:51:32 AM
dragon age 2
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on November 12, 2020, 11:24:15 AM
Oh cool :) I've only played Origins, I should get round to 2 at some point.

(Also, welcome to Exilian! How did you find us?)
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Munz6 on November 13, 2020, 11:26:30 AM
Thanks! I have found this forum on another forum :D I don't actually remember what forum it was exactly
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Tusky on November 13, 2020, 02:42:12 PM

dragon age 2
Also welcome! I did like dragonage 2

I've been playing through "They are billions". It's a good fun RTS about zombies.

I'd been finding it frustratingly difficult on the 2nd easiest setting (the default), even a couple of levels in. So I popped it down to the easiest difficulty which I've found a better stress to enjoyment ratio! :D
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on November 29, 2020, 04:07:54 PM
I don't know what to play next :( Could go back and see if Bannerlord has improved... I'm kind of feeling like another RPG would be good maybe, but I don't know which I really want to play.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Tusky on November 29, 2020, 04:45:36 PM
Skyrim
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on November 29, 2020, 05:37:04 PM
I knew you'd say that :)

But yeah, that would make a lot of sense honestly. I just have a feeling I'll hate the combat, from what I've seen of it?
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Tusky on November 29, 2020, 05:50:00 PM
I knew you'd say that :)

Haha. Darn I am getting predictable

But yeah, that would make a lot of sense honestly. I just have a feeling I'll hate the combat, from what I've seen of it?

Yes I'd say the melee combat can be a little clunky, but there are other options you can do - like be an arrow person or spelly person. Or maybe summon things to fight for you
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Gmd on November 30, 2020, 07:47:20 PM
And you know what ill say: the witcher 3
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on December 01, 2020, 11:13:35 PM
So, I have started playing Skyrim. So far it's... fine I guess? It's very pretty and there's clearly a lot in there, I'm not sure how much energy I have to sink myself into the lore dumps. I am as expected not hugely enjoying the combat: I definitely prefer my RPG combat more tactical and party-driven, and whilst I'm sure the game has some quickslotting and weapon switching options somewhere I've not worked them out & it could do with providing some actual training in their use. I just gave up for the evening after dying in a boss fight with a big spider thingy (OK maybe it was a mini-boss but still) and then realising I'd have to do twenty minutes of poking around the first barrow-dungeon all over again to get back to said boss fight. I do like the graphics, which are very nice indeed, and I like the very open feeling of the thing and what you can/might want to do.
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on February 02, 2021, 11:06:29 PM
Hades turns out to be next on my list: I think I'm doing OK with it, played quite a few runs so far and got as far as being killed by Theseus. I like the plotline, the combat is a bit frantic for my liking and I'm super reliant on getting deflection dashes or something to deal with that, but all in all I'd say I'm having fun and the character work is neat :)
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on February 11, 2021, 10:14:44 PM
Finished the Hades main quest. Still a lot of content in that game to go, but going to take a break from it now for a bit!
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Gmd on March 18, 2021, 07:29:13 PM
after completion whats your verdict on hades? been on my list for a while now
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Jubal on March 20, 2021, 03:22:36 PM
Absolutely recommend. It's a fantastic game, the plot is very well put together and I really enjoyed it. :)

I'm now working my way through Dragon Age 2 with the usual joys and issues of me playing RPGs - not understanding what the dialogues will lead to and always having my inventory over-full. I'm enjoying it, anyway: my character is Rusudan Hawke, she's an apostate mage, I'm basically being the party healer type. Looking forward to seeing how the plot develops (though some major bits are either obvious or spoilered).
Title: Re: What are you playing?
Post by: Gmd on March 29, 2021, 01:19:26 AM
I'll be sure to give hades a go then. Heard great things.