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Title: Helmet crests?
Post by: Jubal on January 04, 2021, 11:17:39 AM
So, in images/popular versions at least, it seems that helmet crests were massively A Thing in the ancient world: we usually represent e.g. Hoplites, and Carthaginian and Spanish warriors, with crested helmets, some Roman legionary ranks had them, and so on.

What I want to know is:

Part of this is sheer curiosity, part of it is that I'm wondering how to do the look of Kesrata and Tabnire in Kavis, much of the theory of which is "Punic cultures but if they still had a couple of big city-states with continuous existence by like the 800s". Thoughts welcome!
Title: Re: Helmet crests?
Post by: dubsartur on January 10, 2021, 09:13:45 PM
Right now there is no one good book on Iron Age helmets in the oikumene, just a few with different focuses and blindspots.

Reallexikon der Assyriologie s.v. Helm: Archäologisch (horsehair helmet crests seem to have been invented by the Neo-Hittites then spread to the Assyrians and the Aegean)
Eero Jarva's Archaiologia on Archaic Greek Body Armour
Connolly's Greece and Rome At War (just keep in mind that a lot of his 'classical Greek' kit is from sites in Italy)
Encyclopedia Iranica s.v. Helmet (i) https://iranicaonline.org/articles/helmet-i
Dintisis' Hellenistische Helme (2 volumes)
Bishop and Coulston's Roman Military Equipment

Helmets still have horsehair crests in the Strategikon of Maurice and a silver Lombard bowl (https://www.ancientworldmagazine.com/articles/warfare-society-barbarian-west-2003/?preview=true). 

Early and high medieval Europe are not my specialty, but by the 13th century the Franks have those cuir boille decorations for the helm, and they last into the 15th century.  They serve the same function of making you look taller and standing out in a sea of screaming moving bodies and flashing weapons.  Codex Manesse and the Innsbrucker Wappenrolle and other MS interested in heraldry tend to show them alongside the shield http://codicon.digitale-sammlungen.de/inventiconCod.icon.%20312%20c.html   By the trecento we also have bascinets fitted with "a little tube of silver to carry the plume" for a few soldi extra.

Claude Blair and David Nicolle are good 'go tos' for medieval arms and armour.
Title: Re: Helmet crests?
Post by: Jubal on January 15, 2021, 05:19:42 PM
Thanks, will follow some of those up :)

And yes, it certainly seems obvious that medieval people had the same want out of helmet decorations re taller-making and fancy - so it's interesting that there wasn't much obvious use of the precursor styles that ancient cultures used to do that.