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Discussion and Debate - The Philosopher's Plaza / Re: Genderfluidity
« on: May 02, 2019, 05:32:44 AM »
I'm going to add my two cents here, but I will keep this simple as I could write a lot about it without getting anywhere. Considering this is the 'philosophers' plaza, I'll start by saying that my background of philosophy is heavily influenced by Eastern traditions, religions and philosophy, in conjunction with much of Western psychology and psychoanalysis, in specifically, the works of Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud.
In Eastern religions, there is a thing that we talk about called the 'ego', which is different from the ego, superego and id defined by Freud in psychology. The 'ego' in terms of Hinduism or Zen Buddhism is simply ones mental image of themselves. Most people in Western society become so fixated on this mental image, as we are constantly being prompted to 'think' about ourselves - what house we are going to buy, which console we are going to play on, our political opinions, Facebook making us feel like 'whats on our mind' is somehow objectively important etc.
As Clockwork previously said, the majority of all terms of genderfluidity are nearly explicitly to do with what other people are thinking about them - and perhaps even more significantly, what they think others are thinking about them.
Irrespective of whether a dress is being worn, or if someone chooses to apply (or not to apply) makeup, in other words, separately from all extraneous expressions of identity, someone who is seeking to impose their mental image of themselves onto the external world is going to be tainted by all sorts of depressive, anxiety and neurotic disorders. It is impossible for this sort of person to not be suffering immensely from at least one of these sorts of mental disturbances. This is because there is a divide between who they see in the mirror and the person they think about when they visualize who they want to be in the future. These 'future' images of oneself are likely to have all sorts of projections placed upon them, and are likely to have all sorts of unconscious factors contributing toward the total of that image, because it is the current ego (how you think of yourself now) which is the origin point of these 'future' images. A child who grows up with an overbearing and aggressive father, and a gentle and nurturing mother may seek to continue to avoid their father's aggression whilst clinging to their perception of gentle femininity into adult life - wearing women's clothing, and seeking to be a mother to oneself, not out of a natural incline towards one's own feminine and nurturing nature, but out of sole rejection towards the extreme forms of destructive behavior witnessed by a father during earlier years - again, as Clockwork had said, every term that arises seems to stand in conflict to something else - in other words, it is dependent on conflict for its own survival. It is not a road that may reach its own conclusion without first transforming into something else.
There are many other factors, and this topic is something which I cannot fully express in only a few paragraphs. I do feel that our current form of society rewards the victim. We are looking for someone to punish, hence why Christianity is so prevalent, with its followers being able to feel as if they do not have to learn from or take responsibility for their own mistakes because they have all been neatly tucked away in Christ's grave with him. So with nihilism on the rise, and the new generations of kids jumping on board with anti-Christian movements (LaVeyan Satanism, Wiccan beliefs, New Age beliefs etc.) and scientific notion which seems to imply the Universe is expanding and we're 'all going to die alone' , there is a tremendous amount of guilt associated with human history which needs to be addressed in order to properly understand why people are becoming so motivated to find someone, something to blame for their mistakes... What could be more shiny, more desirable than a universal victim title? If you're the victim, then society owes you something, because it's society that f*cked you up so bad, and so nothing that's wrong with you is your fault, you're a good person and it's just a damn shame that someone as wholesome and innocent as you was born into such an awful world.
In Eastern religions, there is a thing that we talk about called the 'ego', which is different from the ego, superego and id defined by Freud in psychology. The 'ego' in terms of Hinduism or Zen Buddhism is simply ones mental image of themselves. Most people in Western society become so fixated on this mental image, as we are constantly being prompted to 'think' about ourselves - what house we are going to buy, which console we are going to play on, our political opinions, Facebook making us feel like 'whats on our mind' is somehow objectively important etc.
As Clockwork previously said, the majority of all terms of genderfluidity are nearly explicitly to do with what other people are thinking about them - and perhaps even more significantly, what they think others are thinking about them.
Irrespective of whether a dress is being worn, or if someone chooses to apply (or not to apply) makeup, in other words, separately from all extraneous expressions of identity, someone who is seeking to impose their mental image of themselves onto the external world is going to be tainted by all sorts of depressive, anxiety and neurotic disorders. It is impossible for this sort of person to not be suffering immensely from at least one of these sorts of mental disturbances. This is because there is a divide between who they see in the mirror and the person they think about when they visualize who they want to be in the future. These 'future' images of oneself are likely to have all sorts of projections placed upon them, and are likely to have all sorts of unconscious factors contributing toward the total of that image, because it is the current ego (how you think of yourself now) which is the origin point of these 'future' images. A child who grows up with an overbearing and aggressive father, and a gentle and nurturing mother may seek to continue to avoid their father's aggression whilst clinging to their perception of gentle femininity into adult life - wearing women's clothing, and seeking to be a mother to oneself, not out of a natural incline towards one's own feminine and nurturing nature, but out of sole rejection towards the extreme forms of destructive behavior witnessed by a father during earlier years - again, as Clockwork had said, every term that arises seems to stand in conflict to something else - in other words, it is dependent on conflict for its own survival. It is not a road that may reach its own conclusion without first transforming into something else.
There are many other factors, and this topic is something which I cannot fully express in only a few paragraphs. I do feel that our current form of society rewards the victim. We are looking for someone to punish, hence why Christianity is so prevalent, with its followers being able to feel as if they do not have to learn from or take responsibility for their own mistakes because they have all been neatly tucked away in Christ's grave with him. So with nihilism on the rise, and the new generations of kids jumping on board with anti-Christian movements (LaVeyan Satanism, Wiccan beliefs, New Age beliefs etc.) and scientific notion which seems to imply the Universe is expanding and we're 'all going to die alone' , there is a tremendous amount of guilt associated with human history which needs to be addressed in order to properly understand why people are becoming so motivated to find someone, something to blame for their mistakes... What could be more shiny, more desirable than a universal victim title? If you're the victim, then society owes you something, because it's society that f*cked you up so bad, and so nothing that's wrong with you is your fault, you're a good person and it's just a damn shame that someone as wholesome and innocent as you was born into such an awful world.