Author Topic: Mercenaries  (Read 6222 times)

Mausolos of Caria

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 358
  • Karma: 7
  • RTR Project Historian
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Mercenaries
« on: February 28, 2014, 09:10:49 PM »
Salvete commilitones,

as I announced on the other thread, here is an own thread for our new mercenary units. As we discussed before, we will have Mercenary centers and mercenary ports for those factions that utilized mercenaries the most- especially the hellenistic kingdoms and Carthage. There will still be AOR mercenaries available in field in their correspondent home territories (like Rhodian slingers on Rhodes) and we will need to discuss them later, along with AOR levies available to the Successor states and other big states. So for now, here are the mercenary centers and ports and their respective mercenaries:

Mercenary Centers

Pella (Macedon)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thermon (Aitolian League)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Antiocheia (Seleucids)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Amisos/Amaseia (Pontos)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Sparta (Sparta) (Not there at the start, can be build after reforms)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Pergamon (Pergamon)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Aigion (Achaian League) (Only buildable after reform)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Ambrakia (Epiros)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Baktra (or whatever their capital will be, since they are not in yet)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


MERCENARY PORTS

Gortyn (Cretans)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Carthage (Carthage)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Carthago Nova (Carthage)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Lilybaion (Carthage)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Syracuse (Syracuse)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Athens (Athens)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Rhodes (Rhodos)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Alexandria (Ptolemaic Empire)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


General questions that are still open:

1. Should the normal Thracian infantry fight with a falx? (Needing some Thracian expert here). Edit: Vanilla RTW said they used a falx called Romphaia. Wikipedia confirms it, but both sources might not be the best.

2. Would the (Celt)Iberians use the Falcata? (Needing some Iberian expert here)
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 10:38:55 PM by Mausolos of Caria »
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Bercor

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 573
  • Karma: 10
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2014, 01:15:54 AM »
No Carians in Rhodos? :'(

Mausolos of Caria

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 358
  • Karma: 7
  • RTR Project Historian
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 01:20:40 AM »
I just changed my mind there, they should be a regular unit there, considering the fact that Rhodos controlled Caria for most of the time between 280 BC and the Roman conquest.
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Bercor

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 573
  • Karma: 10
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2014, 01:23:51 AM »
Fair enough.

Mausolos of Caria

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 358
  • Karma: 7
  • RTR Project Historian
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2014, 01:27:16 AM »
I hope it's even possible that Carthage has access to different units in different cities, haha. And if we follow up on the idea that you can build new mercenary centers, we would need to decide which units should be available there.
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Mausolos of Caria

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 358
  • Karma: 7
  • RTR Project Historian
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 11:40:27 PM »
Added Thracian and Greek mercenaries to Gortyn (both were used by the Cretan city states). I took the Peloponnesian hoplites for them since it seems to make sense and we already have the unit. We might also add mercenary peltasts, and Cretan slingers for other factions (see other threads).
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Mausolos of Caria

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 358
  • Karma: 7
  • RTR Project Historian
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 11:28:29 PM »
Just had a chat with Cheesy_Freak, here's what he said on Carthage's Iberian warriors:

Celtiberian Warriors: Swordsmen, used the gladius hispaniensis, other Celts would use Iron antena swords or other local variants

Iberian Scutarii: Used a Scutum and spear or falcata

Iberian (Scutarii) Cavalry: With a scutum, like this
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Alavaria

  • Posts: 77
  • Karma: 0
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2014, 01:07:32 AM »
I hope it's even possible that Carthage has access to different units in different cities, haha. And if we follow up on the idea that you can build new mercenary centers, we would need to decide which units should be available there.
Doable. That's EDB work, same like any AOR unit.

(We will be able to identify each settlement specifically)

Mausolos of Caria

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 358
  • Karma: 7
  • RTR Project Historian
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Re: Mercenaries
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2014, 01:08:33 PM »
Great news then  :) That only leaves my question about the Thracians ;)
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus