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Rome - Total Realism / Scythed chariots
« on: October 14, 2016, 12:05:03 PM »
Hi guys,

I'm overhauling scythed chariots: I'm giving them 4 horses and 2 warriors. Can someone make heavy archers and swordsmen (the latter will be officers). Both pontus and the seleucids will get their own version and each of these factions will need 3 different skins for swordsmen per faction (the archers will only have one skin per archer). Edit: nvm, there will be no swordsmen.

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Rome - Total Realism / Sprites
« on: October 10, 2016, 05:40:54 PM »
Hi guys,

Some units are disappearing when zooming out and some don't have sprites at all which causes lag. Could someone generate sprites for our units, I think this should have high priority unless we do a lot of changes to unit models in the near future.

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Rome - Total Realism / 1:4 scale units (on huge unit size)
« on: October 10, 2016, 05:04:42 PM »
Hi guys,

One of my greatest issues with total war games is that the number of men in battles is much less than in real life. The maximum size of units in rtw is 243 and the maximum number of units is 20. Which means that the maximum number of men in a battle is almost 5000. 2 full stacks means 10000 units. Most modern PC's can handle that easily (mine can handle 18000 with vanilla, 12000-15000 with most mods) My proposal is to use a fixed scale for units sizes. I think the scale of 1:4, that would mean we represent 1000 men with an unit of 243 men. We could increase the size of most units that were historically not very small in number to 243 just like in RSII(I). This would also mean a greater contrast with elephant units which unit size ratio compared to other troops cannot be represented in a realistic manner on the RTW engine, unless the number of men in other units is increased. We would also need to adjust the cost of most units. Please tell me what you think even if you think this is a bad idea.

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Rome - Total Realism / Calibrating seasons for 6 tpy
« on: October 09, 2016, 01:57:32 PM »
Hi guys,

Is there anyone who could create a script or little program to generate triggers similar to the ones in the text file that can be found on my google drive but for 6 tpy from 270 to 30 BC (season 5 would need 4 triggers and season 6 would need 5 triggers)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_bazriEPu5oM0ZhWG0wWGFsRzg/view?usp=sharing

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Hi guys,

I'm working on a system that simulates inflation, it would require to disable the option to manage cities without a govenor. Is there a way to make it impossible to manage all settlements?

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Hi, I wonder if Sarmatians should convert to western or eastern civilized when they settle. Eastern civilized would be a bit easier to implement because the other nomad factions would also convert to eastern civilized when they settle. Or should we make it depending on where they settle? (even harder to implement than only western civilized)

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Rome - Total Realism / City levels independend from population
« on: October 08, 2016, 06:49:15 PM »
Hi everyone,

since we used population in rtr to represent available manpower, would it be an idea to have city levels independent from population growth like in Fourth Age Total War: Dominion of Men? We could actually base our building tree structure on it because it's the best one I've ever seen in a rtw mod. We could also have nine settlement levels and we could make it possible to raze an enemy city after conquering it.

I'm open to listen to other people's opinion :)

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Rome - Total Realism / Climates & season movement restrictions
« on: October 08, 2016, 01:38:53 PM »
Hi,

I'm currently working on a system which uses the climate 'buildings' to trigger 'traits' depending on climate, season and culture. Each culture would also need a trait description for all 6 seasons: early spring, spring, summer, late summer, autumn and winter. @xeofox could you give me some info for the nomad season mechanics and descriptions?

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Rome - Total Realism / Naval Mechanics
« on: July 19, 2016, 05:11:38 PM »
Hi, I made descriptions for the new ships that I'm going to add. I based my descriptions on vanilla RTW, RTRVII, Metro Naval Mod and information from the internet including Wikipedia. What do you think? I'm interested in your opinion.

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{naval_bireme}Bireme

{naval_bireme_descr}    \n\nLength: 20m
\nBreadth: 2m
\nDisplacement (Manned): 15 tonnes
\nOarsmen: 50
\nMarines & Officers: nil

\n\nThe two-level Penekonter (the Bireme Diere) may be claimed to have been the first true warship, designed to wield the ram, a purely anti-ship weapon. Appearing in around 800 BC, the two-level Penekonter was probably an invention of the Phoenicians.

\n\nThe hull was a shortened, lightened version of the single-level penekonter, with a manned displacement of around 15 tonnes, with the second file of oarsmen sitting in the hold, so that there was little room in the ship for either cargo or passengers.  It eclipsed the older single-level Penekonter because it was able to manoever at least twice as fast, sprint speed being at around 7.5kts.

\n\nThe Bireme was a successful type of ship, and although it was obsolete as a warship-of-the-line from around 500 BC, with the appearance of the Trireme, it nonetheless endured throughout the Classical Period and into the Hellenistic Period as a scout and auxiliary vessel, moving in front of a fleet to report on the approach of an enemy (Livy, 34.35.5; Polybius, 1.53.9).

\n\nVarious versions of the two-level Penekonter featured in the Hellenistic Period. The Liburnian was a bireme that was "cataphracted" or decked, and presumably was first developed by the Liburni, an Illyrian tribe (Appian, 10.1.3). The term 'Liburnian' became a general Roman designation for all light two oar-level galleys built with a ram. The Liburnian were noted for their speed, being originally a pirate raider. Phillip V of Macedon is reported as building Illyrian-style Lemboi(Polybius, 5.101.2).

{naval_bireme_descr_short}    A bireme is a small galley with a ram at the prow. It is powered by sail and two banks of oars.\n\nThe ship has a good turn of speed and is fairly "handy" with a good crew - the ram makes the bireme a weapon rather than just transport for fighting men. A bireme is outclassed in combat by a trireme's speed and weight, but its combat power should not be underestimated.
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{naval_trireme}    Trireme

{naval_trireme_descr}    \n\nLength: 40m
\nBreadth: 3.6 m
\nDisplacement (Manned): 48 tonnes
\nOarsmen: 170
\nMarines & Officers: 15

\n\nThe Trireme, or Trieres, was the first fully developed ship of the line and represented a significant evolution from the Penekonter. Thucydides attributes the invention of the Trireme to the shipwright Aminocles of Corinth in about 700 BC, but some scholars believe it was first developed in Phoenicia and is first described as a warship in 539 BC by Herodotos.

\n\nThe Tirieme had three levels of oarsmen on each side of the vessel, a total of some 170 oarsmen, each working a single oar generally 9.5cubits (4.66m or 15ft3in) long. Manned, a Trireme displaced around 48 tonnes, three times as much as the smaller two-level Penekonter (Bireme).

\n\nThe Trireme excelled in speed, and was the fastest oared warship of the sixth century BC. It was developed at a time when the eastern Mediterranean was becoming prosperous, and there was a greater need for Greek and Phoenician city-states to protect trade and project naval power.

\n\nXenophon reveals that the Trireme could maintain a speed of 7.5kts ‘for a long day’, (6.4.2) and had a sprint speed of some 9.5kts. This ensured that a Trireme could catch any typical pirate ship (typically Penekonters). While eclipsed as a ship-of-the-line in the Hellenistic Period by larger warships, such as the Quinquereme and the Polyremes, the Trireme nonetheless remained in service as a lighter reconnaissance and auxiliary warship, used to tow transports, carry troops and undertake escort work. Scipo used "Threes" as scouts at the siege of Utica in 203 BC.

\n\nIn the Hellenistic Period the Trireme was typically "cataphracted", that is, decked, so that the oarsmen were protected from missile fire, as well as from the sun and weather.

\n\nThe Trireme was fundamentally designed to deliver a ram attack on rival warships, and hence its design relied on speed and manoeverability. Its 170 oarsmen were critical, and experienced rowers were highly valued. The ram was effectively the only weapon, and the vessel's sides were highly vulnerable to attack. Everything depended on speed and agility, and non-propulsive crew members were limited to a few sailors and helmsmen, plus a handful of marines to throw off grappling hooks and shoot an occasional arrow. These characteristics gave galley tactics, of which the Athenians and Phoenicians were masters, an explosive, all-or-nothing character. Pivoting and darting to the attack, a well-handled, well-rowed galley could penetrate the enemy line, strike from the side, sink its opponent, and disengage with impunity. The usual effect of ramming was to swamp the ship rammed. Sometimes, after ramming a ship, a galley would prevent the ships from separating, and instead board it and begin a hand-to-hand fight. Breaking the oars of an enemy ship, and thereby disabling it, was a favourite tactic of Carthaginian and Rhodian galleys: boarding was preferred by Roman fleets; other tactics included missile attacks with javelins, slings, bows, even catapults and fire pots.

\n\nOarsmen were freemen, recruited from among the poor, and attracted by the lure of regular pay. Coastal cities were a source of naval recruitment, and so regions like Phoenicia and Greece featured in the mustering of rowers for fleets.

\n\nAncient warships remained in sight of the coast, for both ease of navigation, and because of fundamental logistical constraints. Galleys required a frequent re-supply of food and fresh water for their large, sweating, crews, and so the galley had a short range. Galleys, being designed for speed, were very vulnerable to storms. Galleys could use small bays and beaches as harbours, travel up rivers, and navigate in water only a meter or so deep. At least as early as 429 BC (Thucydides 2.56.2), but probably earlier (Herodotus 6.48.2, 7.21.2, 7.97), galleys were adapted to carry horses to provide cavalry support to troops also landed by galley.

\n\nGalleys were hauled out of the water whenever possible to keep them dry, light and fast and free from worm, rot and seaweed. Galleys were usually over-wintered in ship sheds or slips, of which there are extensive archeological remains at Carthage and Athens. There is evidence that the hulls of Punic galleys were sheathed in lead, and constructed from prefabricated wooden components. The construction, crewing and maintenance of galleys was a complex technical undertaking, only able to be undertaken by a city-state that was able to muster the timber and technical resources and expertise.

{naval_trireme_descr_short}The Trireme was a powerful warship, propelled by three banks of oars and a sail. It could ram opposing ships and launch boarding actions.
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{naval_quadrireme}    Quadrireme
{naval_quadrireme_descr}    \n\nLength: 40 m
\nBreadth: 5.6 m (18ft)
\nDisplacement (Manned): 60 tonnes
\nOarsmen: 176
\nMarines & Officers: 75

\n\nThe Quadrireme, or ‘the Four’ (Tetreres), was the lightest of the heavy wargalleys of the Hellenistic Period, and was developed from the bireme, by double-manning the oars.

\n\nThe Quadrireme was famous for its speed and maneoverability. One such vessel belonging to Hannibal ‘the Rhodian’ famously avoided the Roman blockade at Lilybaion to re-supply its Punic defenders in the First Punic War. The Quadrireme remained the favourite warship of Rhodes, the Rhodians continuing to use naval tactics of maneover and ram.

\n\nAristotle is quoted by elder Pliny (NH, 7.207) as having attributed the invention of the Four to the Carthaginians. This design was no doubt copied by Carthage’s naval rivals, particularly Dionysius I of Syracuse. The Four was also found in the fleets of Alexander the Great during the siege of Tyre in 332 BC (Curtius, 4.3.14), again suggesting that it was common among the Phoenicians, from whom Alexander drew so much of his naval strength. The growing popularity of the Four meant that thereafter it also appeared in the fleets of the Diadochi, Athens, Pergamum and Rhodes.

\n\nThe Four was relatively low on the waterline, only some 2.2 meters (Livy, 20.25.2-8), and so was substantially lower than “the Five” (by approximately ½ meter). The Fours were about 5.6 meters (18ft) in breadth overall, and so was slim enough to fit into slipsheds built for threes with outriggers. The Four was vulnerable to boarding and missile attacks from larger decked war galleys like the Five, and so relied on its agility and speed to deliver a ram attack. The Four had 22 oars on each side at each of the two levels, and each of these oars was double manned, hence the name “the Four”.

\n\nThere were forty-four oars a side, and a total oar crew of 176. Compared to the Trireme, or Three, the Four was a smaller two-level ship, cheaper to build, and with double manning and a smaller crew, more economical to run. Although classed as one of the heavier galleys, she was fast and manoeuvrable. Her low profile offered less windage, and thus easier rowing in adverse conditions.

\n\nOarsmen were freemen, recruited from among the poor, and attracted by the lure of regular pay. Coastal cities were a source of naval recruitment, and so regions like Phoenicia and Greece featured in the mustering of rowers for fleets.

\n\nAncient warships remained in sight of the coast, for both ease of navigation, and because of fundamental logistical constraints. Galleys required a frequent re-supply of food and fresh water for their large, sweating, crews, and so the galley had a short range, also, being designed for speed, were very vulnerable to storms. Galleys could use small bays and beaches as harbours, travel up rivers, and navigate in water only a meter or so deep. At least as early as 429 BC (Thucydides 2.56.2), but probably earlier (Herodotus 6.48.2, 7.21.2, 7.97), galleys were adapted to carry horses to provide cavalry support to troops also landed by galley.

\n\nGalleys were hauled out of the water whenever possible to keep them dry, light and fast and free from worm, rot and seaweed. Galleys were usually over-wintered in ship sheds or slips, of which there are extensive archeological remains at Carthage and Athens. There is evidence that the hulls of Punic galleys were sheathed in lead, and constructed from prefabricated wooden components. The construction, crewing and maintenance of galleys was a complex technical undertaking, only able to be undertaken by a city-state that was able to muster the timber and technical resources and expertise.
{naval_quadrireme_descr_short}The Quadrireme (or Four) was invented by Carthage around 368BC and remained in general use until 31BC, although a limited number were used in later centuries. Propelled by two banks of oars per side, each oar being double manned, the Quadrireme was capable of reaching astounding speeds.
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{naval_quinquireme}    Quinquireme
{naval_quinquireme_descr}    \n\nLength: 45m
\nBreadth: 6.5m (18ft)
\nDisplacement (Manned): 100 tonnes
\nOarsmen: 300
\nMarines & Officers: 120

\n\nThe Quinquereme, generally known as ‘the Five’ (Penteres), was the standard warship-of-the-line in the Hellenistic Period, a heavy war galley, decked and formidable, developed from the three by double-manning the oars on two levels.

\n\nOriginally, the Five was first built to serve as flagships for fleets of Threes, but they were built in ever greater numbers so that by the time of the First Punic War (264-241 BC) Rome and Carthage had entire fleets comprised of Fives, and were using them on a scale not equaled afterwards (Polybius, 1.36.9-10; 1.25.7-9). The outstanding military difference between the Three and the Five was the number of boarding troops carried, although the Five retained the ram as a secondary weapon of opportunity. The use of towers erected on board ships for offensive and defensive action is also attested in the sources (Livy, 24.34.6; Ap. CW 4.72; Athenaios 5 206d-209e). In addition, the Five was said to be more seaworthy than the Three (Diodorus, 14.47.7; 14.50.4; 14.58.2).

\n\nThe invention of the Five is typically attributed to Dionysius I of Syracuse in around 399 BC, as an evolution of the Three (Diodorus, 13.91.3-36). It is likely that an alternative design was developed in Phoenicia, which, like the Phoenician Three, had no outrigger, instead the oar system is entirely above the hull proper, which is fully decked, and the oar crew are more or less on one level instead of being superimposed, with a heavy side deck. This distinctive Phoenician design and oar system was adopted by both Carthage and Rome (who copied their Fives from a captured Carthaginian ship).

\n\nThe Five had three rows of oars, 90 oars a side, with two men to an oar at two of the three levels. The Five was cataphracted (decked), so that the oarsmen were protected from missiles, as well as the sun and weather. It was significantly larger than previous war galleys, with a total of some 300 rowers and 120 decksoldiers, catapultmen, specialists and officers (Polybius, 1.26.7) and it displacemed some 100 tonnes when manned. The increased breadth on the waterline meant that the Five was slower than smaller war galleys, although it could still sustain speeds of 7kts for long periods, with a sprint speed of 8kts. There was room and buoyancy to accommodate additional oarsmen, and strengthened sides to resist ram attacks from smaller, more nimble war galleys. With a fighting deck some 3 meters (10 Roman feet) above the waterline, the five was well suited to delivering missile and boarding attacks. The five also ushered in an increased reliance on using warships as platforms for artillery.

\n\nThe Carthaginians preferred to rely upon tactics of maneover and ramming, dependant upon superior Punic ship design and skilled crews. Well-handled and well-rowed, able to make quick turns (anastrophe), the galley aimed to penetrate or outflank the enemy line, strike from the side, sink its opponent, and disengage with impunity (known as the deikplous and periplous tactics respectively). The usual effect of ramming was to swamp the ship rammed. Sometimes, after ramming a ship, a galley would prevent the ships from separating, and instead board it and begin a hand-to-hand fight. Breaking the oars of an enemy ship, and thereby disabling it, was a favourite tactic of Carthaginian and Rhodian galleys. Boarding was the preferred tactic of Roman fleets; other tactics included missile attacks with javelins, slings, bows, even catapults and fire pots.

\n\nThe large crews of the Five meant that fleets required ever greater numbers of rowers. Oarsmen were freemen, recruited from among the poor, and attracted by the lure of regular pay. Polybius gives a detailed description of Rome training volunteers as oarsmen in 261 BC (Polybius, 1.21.1-2). Coastal cities were a source of naval recruitment, and so regions like Cyprus, Phoenicia and Greece featured in the mustering of rowers for fleets. The decksoldiers of galley fleets were often drawn from field armies.

\n\nAncient warships remained in sight of the coast, for both ease of navigation, and because of fundamental logistical constraints. Galleys required a frequent re-supply of food and fresh water for their large, sweating, crews, and so the galley had a short range. Galleys, being designed for speed, were very vulnerable to storms. Galleys could use small bays and beaches as harbours, travel up rivers, and navigate in water only a meter or so deep. At least as early as 429 BC (Thucydides 2.56.2), but probably earlier (Herodotus 6.48.2, 7.21.2, 7.97), galleys were adapted to carry horses to provide cavalry support to troops also landed by galley.

\n\nGalleys were hauled out of the water whenever possible to keep them dry, light and fast and free from worm, rot and seaweed. Galleys were usually over-wintered in ship sheds or slips (navalia), of which there are extensive archaeological remains at Carthage and Athens. There is evidence that the hulls of Punic galleys were sheathed in lead, and that they were constructed from prefabricated wooden components. The construction, crewing and maintenance of galleys was a complex technical undertaking, only able to be undertaken by a city-state that was able to muster the timber and technical resources and expertise.

{naval_quinquireme_descr_short}The Quinquireme (or Five) was a powerful, but lumbering, warship intended for fleet actions. Its mass makes it hard to sink.\n\nThe bulk of the crew are rowers as there are five men to each oar; this pulling power is good, but maintaining ramming or battle speed is very tiring for the men. Consequently, quinquiremes also carry a detachment of marines and some shipboard artillery as means of attack - when you can't be sure of ramming an opponent, bombardment or boarding become the most effective tactics.
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{naval_corvus}    Quinquereme with Corvus

{naval_corvus_descr}    \n\nLength: 45m
\nBreadth: 6.5m (18ft)
\nDisplacement (Manned): 100 tonnes
\nOarsmen: 300
\nMarines & Officers: 120

\n\nThe Quinquereme, generally known as ‘the Five’, was rated as one of the larger warships (Maioris Formae) of the Roman fleet.

\n\nOriginally, the Five was first built to serve as flagships for fleets of Threes, but they were built in ever greater numbers so that by the time of the First Punic War (264-241 BC) entire fleets were comprised of Fives. The outstanding military difference between the Three and the Five was the number of boarding troops carried, although the Five retained the ram as a secondary weapon of opportunity. The use of towers erected on board ships for offensive and defensive action is also attested in the sources (Livy, 24.34.6; Ap. CW 4.72; Athenaios 5 206d-209e) and, in addition, it was said to be more seaworthy than the Three (Diodorus, 14.47.7; 14.50.4; 14.58.2).

\n\nThe Romans relied upon a captured Carthaginian Five to serve them as the model for their own ship building program. For this reason, the Roman Five was identical to the Carthaginian, although the Roman vessels were generally understood to be less well built, and consequently less sea worthy and slower. The Romans, seeking to avoid naval battles that relied upon the complex and highly skilled manoeuvres of traditional galley warfare, instead sought to grapple and board the enemy. To promote naval battles that relied upon boarding tactics, the Romans developed the famous boarding bridge known as the corvus or "raven".

\n\nThe corvus is best described by Polybius, but also other ancient sources (Polybius, 1.22-23; Frontinus, Stratagems, 2.3.24; Florus, 1.18.9). This was a grappling bridge attached to the mast on the bow of the Roman ship. This bridge could be manoeuvered and dropped onto the deck of the enemy vessel, allowing the Roman marines aboard the Roman vessel to board and storm the enemy vessel.

\n\nThe Five had three rows of oars, with two men pulling each of the top two oars, so that each file of rowers was five – hence the name of the galley. The Five was cataphracted (decked), so that the oarsmen were protected from missiles, as well as the sun and weather. It was significantly larger than previous war galleys, with a total of some 300 rowers and 120 decksoldiers, catapultmen, specialists and officers (Polybius, 1.26.7) and had a displacement of some 100 tonnes when manned. The increased breadth on the waterline meant that the Five was slower than smaller war galleys, although it could still sustain speeds of 7kts for long periods, with a sprint speed of 8kts. It had the room and buoyancy to accommodate additional oarsmen, and strengthened sides to resist ram attacks from smaller, more nimble war galleys. With a fighting deck some 3 metres (10 Roman feet) above the waterline, the Five was well suited to delivering missile and boarding attacks and ushered in an increased reliance on using warships as platforms for artillery.

\n\nThe large crews of the five meant that fleets required ever greater numbers of rowers. Oarsmen were freemen, recruited from among the Roman poor, and attracted by the lure of regular pay. Polybius gives a detailed description of Rome training volunteers as oarsmen in 261 BC (Polybius, 1.21.1-2). Coastal cities were another source of naval recruitment, and Rome likely recruited many of its rowers from among the socii navales (naval allies, such as Tarentum). Typically during the Punic Wars, the decksoldiers of Roman galleys were detached legionaries from Roman field armies.

\n\nAncient warships remained in sight of the coast, for both ease of navigation, and because of fundamental logistical constraints. Galleys required a frequent re-supply of food and fresh water for their large, sweating, crews, and so the galley had a short range. Galleys, being designed for speed, were very vulnerable to storms. Galleys could use small bays and beaches as harbours, travel up rivers, and navigate in water only a meter or so deep. At least as early as 429 BC (Thucydides 2.56.2), but probably earlier (Herodotus 6.48.2, 7.21.2, 7.97), galleys were adapted to carry horses to provide cavalry support to troops also landed by galley.

\n\nGalleys were hauled out of the water whenever possible to keep them dry, light and fast and free from worm, rot and seaweed. Galleys were usually over-wintered in ship sheds or slips (navalia), of which there are extensive archaeological remains at Carthage and Athens. There is evidence that the hulls of Punic galleys were sheathed in lead, and that they were constructed from prefabricated wooden components. The construction, crewing and maintenance of galleys was a complex technical undertaking, only able to be undertaken by a city-state that was able to muster the timber and technical resources and expertise.

{naval_corvus_descr_short}A Corvus Quinquireme was a powerful warship intended for fleet actions, and a refinement of the basic Quinquireme design. Its sheer size made it hard to sink. {naval_corvus_descr}    \n\nA corvus quinquireme is a powerful warship intended for fleet actions, and a refinement of the basic quinquireme design. Its sheer size makes it hard to sink.\n\nThe bulk of the crew are rowers as there are five men to each oar; this pulling power is good, but maintaining ramming or battle speed is very tiring.\n\nThe corvus was developed by Rome during the first Punic War as a means of turning sea battles into land battles, and allowing its superior infantry to become decisive. It is an iron 'beak' on a hinged walkway that is designed to smash down into enemy decking doing two jobs in one: making a bridge for the marines to cross, and locking the two ships together so that the battle has to be fought on the quinquireme captain's terms.
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{naval_hexareme}    Hexareme
{naval_hexareme_descr}\n\nThe Hexareme or ‘the Six’ (Hexeres) were large ships used mainly as command- and control vessels. The hexareme or sexireme is affirmed by the ancient historians Pliny the Elder and Aelian to have been invented in Syracuse. "Sixes" were certainly present in the fleet of Dionysius II of Syracuse (r. 367–357 and 346–344 BC), but they may well have been invented in the last years of his father, Dionysius I. "Sixes" were rarer than smaller vessels, and appear in the sources chiefly as flagships: at the Battle of Ecnomus, the two Roman consuls each had a hexareme, Ptolemy XII (r. 80–58 and 55–51 BC) had one as his personal flagship, as did Sextus Pompeius. At the Battle of Actium, hexaremes were present in both fleets, but with a notable difference: while in the fleet of Octavian they were the heaviest type of vessel, in the fleet of Mark Antony they were the second smallest, after the quinqueremes. A single hexareme, the Ops, is later recorded as the heaviest ship serving in the praetorian Fleet of Misenum.

\n\nThe exact arrangement of the hexareme's oars is unclear. If it evolved naturally from the earlier designs, it would be a trireme with two rowers per oar; the less likely alternative is that it had two levels with three oarsmen at each. Reports about "sixes" used during the 1st-century BC Roman civil wars indicate that they were of a similar height to the quinqueremes, and record the presence of towers on the deck of a "six" serving as flagship to Marcus Junius Brutus.
{naval_hexarem_descr_short} The Hexareme (or Six) were large ships used mainly as command- and control vessels.
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{naval_septireme}    Septireme
{naval_septireme_descr}    \n\nThe Septireme or ‘the Seven’ (Hepteres) was an evolution of the Hexareme. According to Pliny the Elder they were first build by Alexander the Great. Curtius corroborates this, and reports that the king gave orders for wood for 700 septiremes to be cut in Mount Lebanon, to be used in his projected circumnavigations of the Arabian peninsula and Africa. At Salamis Demetrius Poliorcetes had seven such ships, built in Phoenicia, and later Ptolemy II (r. 283–246 BC) had 36 septiremes constructed. Pyrrhus of Epirus (r. 306–302 and 297–272 BC) also apparently had at least one "seven", which was captured by the Carthaginians and eventually lost at Mylae.

\n\nPresumably, the septireme was derived by adding a standing rower to the lower level of the hexareme.
{naval_septireme_descr_short}    The Heptere (or seven) was an evolution of the Hexareme, a large wargalley mainly used as command- and controlvessel.
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{naval_octere}    Octere
{naval_octere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty octeres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. Very little is known about the octeres. At least two of their type were in the fleet of Philip V of Macedon (r. 221–179 BC) at the Battle of Chios in 201 BC, where they were rammed in their prows. Their last appearance was at Actium, where Mark Antony is said by Plutarch to have had many "eights". Based on the comments of Orosius that the larger ships in Antony's fleet were only as high as the quinqueremes (their deck standing at ca. 3 m above water), it is presumed that "eights", as well as the "nines" and "tens", were rowed at two levels.

\n\nAn exceptionally large "eight", the Leontophoros, is recorded by Memnon of Heraclea to have been built by Lysimachus (r. 306–281 BC), one of the Diadochi. It was richly decorated, required 1,600 rowers (8 files of 100 per side) and could support 1,200 marines. Remarkably for a ship of its size, its performance at sea was reportedly very good.
{naval_octere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty octceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels.
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{naval_ennere}    Ennere
{naval_ennere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty enneres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels. The enneres is first recorded in 315 BC, when three of their type were included in the fleet of Antigonus Monophthalmus. The presence of "nines" in Antony's fleet at Actium is recorded by Florus and Cassius Dio, although Plutarch makes explicit mention only of "eights" and "tens". The oaring system may have been a modification of the quadrireme, with two teams of five and four oarsmen.
{naval_octere_descr_short}    The mighty enneres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels.
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{naval_decere}    Decere
{naval_decere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty deceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels.
{naval_decere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty deceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels. A deceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 850 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a deceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a large contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nLike the septireme, the deceres is attributed by Pliny to Alexander the Great, and they are present alongside "nines" in the fleet of Antigonus Monophthalmus in 315 BC. Indeed, it is most likely that the "ten" was derived from adding another oarsman to the "nine". A "ten" is mentioned as Philip V's flagship at Chios in 201 BC, and their last appearance was at Actium, where they constituted Antony's heaviest ships.
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{naval_endecere}    Endecere
{naval_endecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty endeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels.
{naval_endecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty endeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels. A endeceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 1000 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a endeceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a large contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nDemetrius Poliorcetes had some of these ships constructed for his fleet in 301BC, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_dodecere}    Dodecere
{naval_dodecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty dodeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels.
{naval_dodecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty dodeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs many other vessels. A dodeceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 1200 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a dodeceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a large contingent of marines for boarding and defence. Ptolemy II Philadelphus had two "Twelves" constructed for his fleet, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_treiskaidecere}    Treiskaidecere
{naval_treiskaidecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty treiskaideceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs most other vessels.
{naval_treiskaidecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty treiskaideceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs most other vessels. A treiskaideceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 1400 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a treiskaideceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a large contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nDemetrius I Poliorcetes had some of these ships constructed for his fleet in 301BC, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_tessarakaidecere}    Tessarakaidecere
{naval_tessarakaidecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty tessarakaideceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs most other vessels.
{naval_tessarakaidecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty tessarakaideceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs most other vessels. A tessarakaideceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 1600 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a tessarakaideceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a large contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nDemetrius I Poliorcetes had some of these ships constructed for his fleet in 301BC, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_pendecere}    Pendecere
{naval_pendecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty pendeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs most other vessels.
{naval_pendecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty pendeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs most other vessels. A pendeceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 1800 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a pendeceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a large contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nDemetrius I Poliorcetes had some of these ships constructed for his fleet in 301BC, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_hexadecere}    hexadecere
{naval_hexadecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty hexadeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels.
{naval_hexadecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty hexadeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels. A hexadeceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 2100 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a hexadeceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a huge contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nDemetrius I Poliorcetes had some of these ships constructed for his fleet in 301BC, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_octodecere}    Octodecere
{naval_octodecere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty octodeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels.
{naval_octodecere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty octodeceres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels. A octodeceres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 2500 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a octodeceres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a huge contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nThe Hellenistic Kingdoms were known to use large ships such as Hepteres, Deceres, but they didn't stop here. Antigonos II Gonatas, King of Macedon build an "18" and "20". One "18", called Isthmia, was used by Antigonos II as his flagship. It was manned by 2300 rowers on two levels of banks.
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{naval_eikosere}    Eikosere
{naval_eikosere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty eikoseres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels.
{naval_eikosere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty eikoseres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels. A eikoseres is among the largest ships afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 2800 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a eikosere also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a huge contingent of marines for boarding and defence.\n\nAntigonus II Gonatas had a "Twenty" constructed for his fleet, while Ptolemy II Philadelphus constructed two of these ships, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_triakontere}    Triakontere
{naval_triakontere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty triakonteres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels.
{naval_triakontere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty triakonteres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs nearly all other vessels. A triakonteres is the second largest ship afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 3600 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a triakontere also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a huge contingent of marines for boarding and defence. Ptolemy II Philadelphus had two "Thirties" constructed for his fleet, they were at that time the biggest warships around.
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{naval_tessarakontere}    Tessarakontere
{naval_tessarakontere_descr_short}    \n\nThe mighty tessarakonteres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs all other vessels.
{naval_tessarakontere_descr}    \n\nThe mighty tessarakonteres was a dreadnought in the ancient Mediterranean. In size, number of men and fighting potential it dwarfs all other vessels. A tessarakontere is the largest ship afloat, and is crewed by anything up to 4400 men - most, of course, being rowers.\n\nIts combat power is formidable. Apart from a couple of fighting towers, a tessarakonteres also carries lithoboloi and katapeltai to bombard enemies, plus a huge contingent of marines for boarding and defence.The "Forty" was reportedly built by Ptolemy IV Philopator of Egypt in the 3rd century BC. It was first described by his contemporary Callixenus of Rhodes in the lost Peri Alexandreias. In the early-3rd century AD, Athenaeus quotes this in his Deipnosophistae.\n\n“Philopator built a ship with forty ranks of rowers, being two hundred and eighty cubits long and thirty-eight cubits from one side to the other; and in height up to the gunwale it was forty-eight cubits; and from the highest part of the stern to the water-line was fifty-three cubits; and it had four rudders, each thirty cubits long ... And the ship had two heads and two sterns, and seven beaks ... And when it put to sea it held more than four thousand rowers, and four hundred supernumeraries; and on the deck were three thousand marines, or at least two thousand eight hundred and fifty. And besides all these there was another large body of men under the decks, and a vast quantity of provisions and supplies.”
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