Gay Marriage - Your Thoughts?

[comrade_general]

Have faith in yourself.

[Jubal]

If your argument comes from faith/culture, I think it's best to state that it's a faith based position. I mean, the danger is that when people argue from a faith-based platform but feel they need to have a more cogent argument it sort of becomes an argument where you have the answer and you're looking for evidence rather than vice versa, which doesn't work. Faith-based positions are by no means unacceptable in a debate, but in my opinion at least come off better and more reasonable when displayed as what they are.

[Phoenixguard09]

Fair point I guess but I still don't really like bringing faith into debates like this. Feels like a bit of a copout.

[Son of the King]

If your argument comes from faith/culture, I think it's best to state that it's a faith based position. I mean, the danger is that when people argue from a faith-based platform but feel they need to have a more cogent argument it sort of becomes an argument where you have the answer and you're looking for evidence rather than vice versa, which doesn't work. Faith-based positions are by no means unacceptable in a debate, but in my opinion at least come off better and more reasonable when displayed as what they are.

Agree with this, but in this debate faith is a secondary issue imo. Gay marriage should be an option, simply for the sake of equality. Faiths can come into it later on, when institutions are deciding if they want to hold marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples, but to deny the option altogether is just silly.

[Jubal]

Agree with this, but in this debate faith is a secondary issue imo. Gay marriage should be an option, simply for the sake of equality. Faiths can come into it later on, when institutions are deciding if they want to hold marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples, but to deny the option altogether is just silly.

Also agreed.

[Pentagathus]

Don't see the point in marriage myself, but if other people want to get married I don't care whether or not they put their pecker in another fellas pooper.
I don't think a faith should be forced to marry a gay couple though, because if you're stupid enough to be homosexual and proscribe to a vile homophobic faith then its your own fault for being a portugal for wits.

[comrade_general]

How colorful, yet true.

[Othko97]

Colourful* but, yes quite. 

[Ashanorath]

You really miss the "don't give a armadillo" option. I mean, they should be allowed to get legaly married. Although, there is one thing about gay marriage/people that bothers me and it's when they get in your face acting like they're better than everyone else(I met a person like that and he really pissed me off). Anyway, their sexual orientation is their private thing and they should have same legal rights as any other person.

[Silver Wolf]

I agree with Ashanorath.

Sexual orientation is like a dick. You have one and it's ok to be proud of it. What is not ok is taking it out in public and shoving it into somebody's face.
And marriage is just an old norm invented by possessive people long ago, in order to prevent cheating. Because all-knowing god sees everything, of course. And once you say "Yes, I do." that all-knowing god suddenly sees even more.

The comparison is a bit crude, but true nonetheless.

[comrade_general]

Sexual orientation is like a dick. You have one and it's ok to be proud of it. What is not ok is taking it out in public and shoving it into somebody's face.

I see you've been on facebook.

[Silver Wolf]

I haven't. I remember seeing it somewhere else. 
It's quite a common phrase, actually.

[Jubal]

Yeah, I guess I think we're going to get a much better chance of normalising the situation so gay people don't feel they have to be communal or very public about things if there aren't these clear discrepancies in people's rights.

Also, remember it was only a decade or two ago that being outed as gay could sink someone's career. We shouldn't be wholly surprised if there's a few years of backlash to that before things settle down again.