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Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on February 14, 2010, 01:27:50 PM
This thread will be a list of competitions and minor contributions YOU can make to Southern Realms. Anyone who does will get their name in the credits, and possibly even a lord/character named after them ingame!

Okay, current things I need doing;


COMPETITION: DESIGN A CLAIMANT

I need you to design a faction claimant for either the Duchy of Rhonewar, the Duchy of Mallardia, or the County of Thuralia. All you need to do is fill in a convincing, interesting, and clever dialog into the Module framework. The one below is an example, my claimant for the Red Khanate:
Spoiler: click to toggle

All the faction claimants use the same pattern of dialog: an intro and 3-part story for the claimant, and a 2-part response from the reigning monarch. Feel free to name your characters what you like, and make up all sorts of ways in which they were justly or unjustly thrown out of the kingdom. Fill your story (in proper standard English) into the pattern given below:
Spoiler: click to toggle

The best claimant for each of the 3 mini-factions will go ingame and the maker's name added to the credits!

TASK: SCENE BUILDING
As you've probably all worked out, there are lots of scenes in SR that are incomplete or nonexistent, and several of the ones that are there are rehashes of native. So here's how you can help:
- First, start your game in edit mode. This can be selected on the options when you load up M&B.
- Play the game!
- When you DO come to a scene that you feel needs work, press cntrl + E, then get on with building it up.
- When you're done, go in Windows Explorer to Mount & Blade -> Modules -> Southern Realms -> SceneObj
- Using the below list of places, find the scene you were working on. The list is kinda long, so I'd advise putting the list into a document so you can use search on it for the town/castle/village you want.
- Zip your scene, post it as an attachment in this thread.
- Look on with pride as your name is added to the SR team list!

Tutorial on AI meshing (there are many locations without them or with bad ones so please check).
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,61126.0.html (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,61126.0.html)

Tut on getting started with edit mode
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian?topic=467530 (http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian?topic=467530)

FINALLY, if you need someone to ask for advice, xGhost4000x is the team's most experienced scener so looking in at his "scene progress" thread and/or talking to him or myself would be good ideas.

TASK: TRADE ROUTES

This is both the most boring and the most useful task. Basically, the below bit of code creates the trade routes between cities. And it ain't finished. I need someone to go through, decide which cities should trade with which (routes should be to should be 2-4 of the closest cities), and fill them in. As you go down you'll have less new entries for each city as ones from lower numbered cities wil already point there.

Look at the city lst for scene editors: that will tell you which city is which.
Aaaand this is the set of script calls you need to edit; it all goes in the same pattern as the ones here, just continue from what I've given you.
Spoiler: click to toggle
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on February 14, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
List of villages, castles, and cities, for use by scene editors:
Spoiler: click to toggle
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: xGhost4000x on February 16, 2010, 01:52:56 PM
I have a friend who likes writing. I told him about your contest and he seems interested, I'll give him the link to this page. It would probably help if you could lay out some form of backstory or atleast a general idea of what each of those factions are like, (from the look of their names they all must have broken off of a larger kingdom correct?)
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on February 16, 2010, 04:49:10 PM
The reason I picked those 3 is that they're the ones with least backstory; I'll give you what I have though They're all tiny, petty states bordering much larger powers, and all have quite feudal systems of government.

Mallardia is probably a crusader state, founded as part of the reconquista of the southern Gorin peninsula. The only thing they are famous for is having a surprisingly tough fleet of privateers; essentially an unpaid navy liable to prey on both enemies and merchants. The whole country is also kind of a running joke, as everything they have is named after a type of duck; Mallard for the state, Gadwall is their leader, Pochard is the castle and Teal their village.

Thuralia was originally a loyal part of a kingdom long since swallowed up by the advance of the Goriniae; a mercenary captain serving with the Goriniae took the relatively protected enclave for his own, building a strong castle to guard it from invasion. Although not originally exceptional at all, long years of beating back their powerful norther neighbour have bred a hardy, militarist and suspicious people adept as raiders and in demand as mercenaries.

Rhonewar has more of an independent history; even before the Gorin empire expanded, the barbarians and woodsmen of this little area lived undisturbed as the "civilised" folk further south could not see the benefit in battling their way through the thick forests and rolling hills that lay in the shadow of the great mountains for no real prize. The Goriniae, too, ignored it at first; the discovery of rich copper deposits changed their attitude rather. A scholar from Swadia was at that time in the region, also looking for wealth in the mountains and hoping to profit by leading the newcomers to good mines. However, impressed by the hardy folk he encountered, he found himself advising villages on how to defend themselves against the enslavement that would befall them if the enemy came. Eventually he - barely willingly - led a militia force against the Goriniae. His mastery of forest tactics led to total success, and while his foes were in disarray he quickly took charge of building defences, eventually culminating in Rhonewar's vast ducal castle. Crowned Duke by the villagers, the unwilling hero has become a figurehead and legend for the people of Rhonewar, who enjoy more freedom than serfs in most other countries.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on March 17, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
I am willing to help with the faction claimants but what factions need doing and what are the history of each faction.

assassin>>>> :ninja:
 :knight: :DarkstarOnly: :knight:
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on March 19, 2010, 08:41:16 PM
Mallardia, Thuralia and Rhonewar at the moment, which is why I posted their history already. After that I might post some more if those get done.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Brother Librarian on May 06, 2010, 06:09:05 AM
ive started work editing the scenes that were impossibly silly. i did a big fix up on the red khanate caslte walls. so they no longer fly.

a small bit of the keep is still flying, but there are stairs up to the main door. oh and i put a chest into the internal scene.

in order for the chest to then be usable is anything special rquired? or is just that chests in your own castle internal scenes are automatically useable. next up will be the spawn points for that castle - then the same for the towns in gorrina.


- did the same raising of floor to nice level and adding chest to the Harlushian castle. - although i didnt raise the floor the mysterious tower that is apart from the rest and ridiculously high up.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on May 06, 2010, 05:13:46 PM
There is some scripting required for chests, and I can't remember how it works...
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Brother Librarian on May 07, 2010, 05:59:15 AM
well i put a chest in every castle internal scene that needed one int he entire gorrin empire.

also while i can work out the spawn points generally from your tutorial and stuff. i cant work out which ones relate to where people spawn in sieges.

becuase loads of the places in Gorrina empire have the scenes built, but when you siege them either everyone spawns in the same place somewhere riduculous or they spawn on a blank map in the corner all bunched up with both sides. even when town wall scenes have been built.
how could i fix this?

oh and is there are way of selecting multiple objects to lower them as a gropu?
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on May 09, 2010, 02:31:40 PM
I think you can select multiple objects just by clicking on them in the llist of objects on the edit menu.

The spawn issues are lack of spawn points in the right place, and also lackof an AI mesh. I'll try and work out the spawn points at some point (it's a trial and experimentation jobbie if you want to do it; just spread out spawn points and note where the allies/enemies etc spawn and where reinforcements come from.

And sounds like I'll be needing to get my scripts going to get all those chests in gear at some point... after exams...
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Silver Wolf on July 14, 2010, 08:19:06 PM
I could help you with something... It looks like you were very busy these last few weeks...
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on July 15, 2010, 11:04:35 AM
HELP!! I was doing one of the castles and when I saved it and got back into it half of the map went back to the way it was when I started it. That is very anoing when I am doing a mountain range and the origonal was a plain. How do I fix it.

Assassin >> :ninja:

 :knight:  :DarkstarOnly:  :knight:
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on August 03, 2010, 10:58:16 AM
Ok so I’m writing a sorry about the Southern Realms mod (Well not about it its self just based on the factions, characters and the map layout). first I’m asking if I have permission (It is entirely for the mods purpose) and secondly I need faction backgrounds for the Kingdom of the Kingdom of Dharroks, Commagene Empire, Grand Duchy of Monemvasia, City of Tenthala, Hematite Emirate, Lusitanian Empire, Kingdom of Swadia, Kingdom of Vaegirs, Khergit Khanate, Kingdom of Nords, Kingdom of Rhodoks, Empire of Gorinia, Kingdom of Voroks, Republic of Geroia, City of Harlaushia, Kingdom of Lacontia, Kingdom of Alania, Princedom of Curaw, Red Khanate, Kingdom of Aurothia. Also whilst writing it I might ask for backgrounds for the lords and ladies and kings of the Southern Realms.

P.S. sorry if it’s too much for you :D . If you like i'll just make up my own.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on August 03, 2010, 12:27:38 PM
I can give you as much detail as you need, sure. I'm out today but I'll try and get stuff done for you soon. Do you have MSN? You could ask me whatever you needed then much faster.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on August 03, 2010, 10:04:42 PM
I once did have MSN before but people keep on hacking into my account so I don’t use it any more. It doesn’t mater any way cus I'm a slow writer. atm all I need now is the back ground on the City of Harlaushia. The main Character is an Assassin ;) .
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on August 03, 2010, 10:14:37 PM
Oh and the Gairia faction and there king cus his first mision is to assassinate him but his dad and uncle get captered cus its realy a trap and he goes all the way to the island where the nords live cus his uncle was sold as a slave. and so when he is rescuaed they set out together to track down and free his dad. How do you like it so far? :D
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on August 04, 2010, 10:52:03 PM
Gairia? Do you mean Gorinia or Geroia or somewhere else?

'cos Gorinia has essentially a military government and Geroia has a Ruling Council, hence it being the Republic of Geroia.  :P
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on August 04, 2010, 11:21:12 PM
So theres Gairia and a Geroia. THAT is confusing. Is the assassin faction at war with one or the other?
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on August 05, 2010, 10:59:18 AM
I don't remember a Gairia at all, and I made this thing! Where do you mean?!?
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on August 05, 2010, 12:31:17 PM
From: http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian?topic=7186329/1/ (http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian?topic=7186329/1/)

Kingdom of Swadia
Kingdom of Vaegirs
Khergit Khanate
Kingdom of Nords
Kingdom of Rhodoks
Empire of Gorinia
County of Zendar
Kingdom of Voroks
Republic of Geroia
City of Harlaushia
Kingdom of Lacontia
Kingdom of Alania
Princedom of Curaw
Red Khanate
Kingdom of Aurothia
Realm of Lexandia
Duchy of Mallardia
Duchy of Rhonewar
County of Thuralia
Kingdom of Dharroks
Commagene Empire
Grand Duchy of Monemvasia
City of Tenthala
Hematite Emirate
Lusitanian Empire

 :$  oops my mistake I got them mixed together. Its ment to be Geroia and Gorinia. :blink: NOW i'm confused.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Jubal on August 07, 2010, 09:57:10 PM
Now I understand.

Gorinia - Empire - Military government under Varmuna
Geroia - Republic - Ruling Council led by Aureus
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: xGhost4000x on August 12, 2010, 12:02:54 AM
A Little bit of an update, I am still working on this believe it or not. Things are just much slower, balancing between this, M&B Warband Multplayer, and Victoria 2, and of course work...

I'm done some good work with a couple of Town Sieges, however working on these has created an interesting dilema....how to upload them to you. You see the only way I could get these working correctly was slight modifications to the scenes.txt file. Now do I just upload the changes made and you put them in your scenes.txt or do I upload mine completely? The reason this may be tricky is because I'm certian yours is a little different than mine, because you are constantly adding towns and what not. :)

Anyway, let me know how you want me to do it.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on August 18, 2010, 10:06:12 AM
What could i call it. Southern Realms or soming else.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on September 30, 2010, 12:23:25 PM
I need the back ground stories and any info for these factions:
Kingdom of Dharroks
Commagene Empire
Grand Duchy of Monemvasia
City of Tenthala
Hematite Emirate
Lusitanian Empire
City of Harlaushia
Kingdom of Lacontia
Kingdom of Voroks
Red Khanate
Kingdom of Aurothia

P.S. For the story.
P.S.S. Take your time.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: The Dragon Reborn on November 29, 2010, 02:50:10 AM
I could write about Aurothia, they're my favorite so far. I like the armor especially. :D
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on February 11, 2011, 06:41:00 AM
ty. that would be great.
Title: SR: How You Can Help
Post by: Cuddly Khan on March 27, 2011, 09:37:53 AM
I'm doing scene editing for the Nords ATM.