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« Last post by Pentagathus on April 19, 2024, 01:16:01 PM »Yeah he did a very good job, despite seeming to be quite uncomfortable a lot of the time. Kudos to him, I hope he goes back on JRE at some point without Hancock so he can talk more about his own research and expertise.
People criticise Rogan a lot for having conspiracy theorist types on his show, but to be fair to him he actually does try to host these types of debates at times and he is genuinely willing to change his beliefs when someone who actually knows what they're talking about explains what the "mainstream narrative" actually is and how it works. I think that is a very valuable thing, and fortunately this appeared to be one of those times.
People criticise Rogan a lot for having conspiracy theorist types on his show, but to be fair to him he actually does try to host these types of debates at times and he is genuinely willing to change his beliefs when someone who actually knows what they're talking about explains what the "mainstream narrative" actually is and how it works. I think that is a very valuable thing, and fortunately this appeared to be one of those times.
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History, Science, and Interesting Information - The Great Library / Re: History yays
« Last post by Jubal on April 19, 2024, 11:18:31 AM »I've seen some of Flint Dibble's stuff on social media. He does seem like the kind of person one needs for that job.
I think most academics, and I don't know if they're wrong about this, shy away from that sort of engagment because it really does need a particular set of skills. Like, you need to be carrying a very wide arsenal of facts with you because it's so easy for someone to shoot out some bit of information you didn't know and, when you're in a live interview, it's much harder to look up some citations for why they're wrong. I think that's the thing that would terrify me about doing that sort of thing: I'd like to be the sort of person who could do it, but I worry I'd flail when people started shooting facts at me about things I know I don't truly know well enough to contradict them (because the "pop culture knowledge of the past" stuff is so much broader than most individual academics actually look at, myself included and I'm a relatively broad-brush historian).
I think most academics, and I don't know if they're wrong about this, shy away from that sort of engagment because it really does need a particular set of skills. Like, you need to be carrying a very wide arsenal of facts with you because it's so easy for someone to shoot out some bit of information you didn't know and, when you're in a live interview, it's much harder to look up some citations for why they're wrong. I think that's the thing that would terrify me about doing that sort of thing: I'd like to be the sort of person who could do it, but I worry I'd flail when people started shooting facts at me about things I know I don't truly know well enough to contradict them (because the "pop culture knowledge of the past" stuff is so much broader than most individual academics actually look at, myself included and I'm a relatively broad-brush historian).
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History, Science, and Interesting Information - The Great Library / Re: History yays
« Last post by Pentagathus on April 18, 2024, 06:18:18 PM »So I may have spent almost 4 and a half hours today watching a single absurdly long episode of the Joe Rogan podcast where Graham Hancock was pitted against an actual archaeologist called Flint Dibble. It was interesting stuff, kind of a shame that Hancock was there though tbh because he spent most of his time whining about how mean archaeologists have been to him by challenging his ideas instead bringing up any facts or real argument.
Not really anything new for actual archaeologists but it was very cool to learn about the genetic changes in early domesticated crops and how they seem to occur without selective breeding by humans, they actually appear to be a function of natural selection with humans accidently applying the selection pressures. Very cooool.
Was also interesting to see how Dibble engaged in this debate and how easily grifters like Hancock can be exposed when an expert takes the time to prepare for and engage with a lil well reasoned education and a touch of meme magic.
Not really anything new for actual archaeologists but it was very cool to learn about the genetic changes in early domesticated crops and how they seem to occur without selective breeding by humans, they actually appear to be a function of natural selection with humans accidently applying the selection pressures. Very cooool.
Was also interesting to see how Dibble engaged in this debate and how easily grifters like Hancock can be exposed when an expert takes the time to prepare for and engage with a lil well reasoned education and a touch of meme magic.