To Morcant: Brf cheking

Started by idibil, May 15, 2011, 09:12:19 AM

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idibil

Changes need:


->Animals.brf

Horse saddlery and harness still need reworking. Saddle cloth can be changed, with period pattern or furs aswell.
See here otherwise:
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7266158/1/#new



->Armadurasmedias

- coatofplate: change the forearm protection for all of those. It shall not be studded leather, simple leather is ok. No mail underneath, just fur
- nordiclightarmor: numbers 1, 10, 12, 3, 11, 5, 2, 7, 8, 9 needs to be reworked
See for those:
Noble tunics: lot of corrections needed. The body texture should be the same as the sleeves, with the pants having a different ones. Checkered patterns are not advised all the time, and they would need some tweaking. Brooch and belt could be corrected with period brooch (penannular) and buckles. The cloaks don't need either to be always checkered, but they can be decorated in different ways.
Noble tunics: remove those with a roman torso armor or studded leather armor.

->Armadurasmedias2

- ragged_leather_jerkin: change the forearm protection for all of those. It shall not be studded leather, simple leather is ok.
- kaftan: excellent stuff. Don't forget to name it "Warrior jacket" or "Riding coat" ingame.


->Armaduraspesadas1

- mail_coat 6 7 8: reskin them with better mail texture
- mail_shirt: 1 to 9: same
- hauberk (5-6): a tunic should appear underneath in the middle between the thighs
- raider_hauberk: same
- wolf_coat: same
- wolf pelt_mail_coat: same
- mail_shirt: remove all with designs (animals, etc) on mail
- BL_lamellar: for all see
Lamellar armor: tunics underneath needs long sleeves, not short ones. Some have a bicolor tunic: make it monocolor (like blue lamellar with green half).

- nobleman_outfzx and merchant_outfa, and generally scale armor: those two are good for Gaels and Picts, more variation needed in metal used, shape of the scale, cloth underneath, cloak, see:
Alternatives:
- bronze scales
- blued scales
- various tunic and pteruges colors
- cloak fastened by brooch on right shoulder over it.
See male clothing suggestions thread for more stuff about the lèine.
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7264756/


->Botasycalzadoz

All greaves could easily get a bronze version.

In this category, gaiters are still needed.


->Capasycabeza1
Generally speaking for the cloaks, we could have more variation with:
- penannular broochs, which were the dominant type of brooch among Britons, Gaels and Picts by the 7th century, sometimes very decorated with enamel
- fur, different wool weave (like diamond), or simply one color of wool. Checkered clothing is nice but it is also a bit of cliché when picturing celts of any period
- tablet woven braid rims could be a variant, possibly with fringes.

See this for clothing introduction and ideas (most of you got a copy of it, otherwise register the forum or ask me or Idibil if you want a copy of it by PM):
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7263992/
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7264756


To Idibil, note those cloaks are great for Picts, Britons and Gaels nobles or elite warriors that would sometimes fight without helmets or armor at all.

->Capasycabeza2

- cloak: most need reskinning in my view, to get a better texture, except 7, 8, 17, 18, 21, 22
- priest3: I don't think it's very accurate. Ill post suggestions for monk and clerics clothing soon.
- BL_coat5, 7, 8: same comment than with the others in Capasycabeza1, tartan looks too modern, see also the comments to get variants.


->Coronas
Crowns like this are not accurate at all in 7th century Britain. Kingship would be displayed by neckrings, helmets like Sutton Hoo and other weapons/armor, clothing, brooch and other jewelry.
If you want crowns go for simple gold or silver rings.
Ill make suggestions for this soon.

->Desnudos
- picta
- celt_body
- war_paintos
- BL_body
Like I told you (Idibil) before, naked Picts are no longer accurate in the 7th century. This was something of the iron age and roman period. However you can keep most of those replacing those undercloth with short, knee-lenght, trousers.
I don't like the ones covered with blue paint. Hower those without anything, or those with pictish tatooes (especially in war_paintos) looks great.
So a lot of reworking needed I think.
Note those Pictish tatooes can be used to make new faces. That would be great.


->Escudos1
- scyld: the rim should be stitched, not nailed. More variants can be done using that model
- 2talokbuckler: shield boss should be reworked, shield boss rim should be really round. There are too many rivets currently, 4 to 6 bigger rivets would be enough
- buckler2: same than above, more variants would be great
- ckler: same than above
- talak_jomsviking: different texture is needed, no metal rim
- caledonian_shield: more variants needed for this one
- H_shield: more variant aswell
- tarcza_harfa: more variants, and rework the texture, currently its too bright
- shield_round: more variants could be good.
For suggestions about shields see here:
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7266357/


->Escudos3
- celtic_shield: the celtic cross and interlaces are not accurate for 7th century, reskin it
- celtic_shield_small_round: the mesh is great, however the boss texture needs to be reworked (plain boss, with 4-6 rivets), the rim should not be metal
The decoration should be changed, currently it's only germanic knots, plain ones can be great, otherwise see suggestions (go for simple things like rings and dots, swirls, etc.)
- celtic_shield_small_roundLB: same
- shieldID: excellent if it is a small or medium one, maybe more variants


->Escudos4
- ad_vikingroundshield15: good idea but bad texture, making both flat and lenticular shield with metal fittings like on the Sutton Hoo shield would be great
- numbers 11, 24, 36: decoration looks too much viking, so reskinning is needed
- number 37 has weird colors
- numbers 25, 26, 27, 28: really excellent for the three celtic cultures.
- shield12: has celtic cross, reskinning needed
- shield7 and 9: bad texture IMO
- shield10 and 11: looks too much viking.

->Espadas1
Scabbard lacking for those:
- pattern spatha
- gaelic champion sword (and reworking pommel needed)


->Espadas2
Scabbard lacking for those:
- le_richsword1 and 2
- bamburg_sword
- BL_shsword

Remove (11th or later look):
- Nsword
- NS 2 3 4 8 9 10

->Espadas 3
Scabbard lacking for those:
- irish longsword
- irishsword
- bamburgsword and bamburgsword2
- saxonsword
- irishword2
- celtic 1 and 2
- sword 1 2 3 4
- le_pictishsword (note 7 looks quite saxon, and 2 could be a generic spatha for all cultures)
- all scians (one with a decorated ring-and-dots bone handle would be nice).

Remove:
- irishword (the one with antropomorphic bronze hilt taken from SoT)

->Goras1

- hood: needs reskinning with different color and better texture
- helm_captainA: change mail texture, this one is not that accurate (looks like butted galvanised larp rings!)


->Hachas
- irishaxefaradorn: remove
- taxe: remove or rework, head bridge should be narrow (just like the native hand axe)
- frankishaxe: tweak a bit the texture.
Otherwise more frankish axes would be good.

->Lanzasyhastas
Remove kontos.

->Material_face_gen
Pictish faces with tatooes (like those in desnudos.brf war_paintos) are really needed.
A male face with freckles (or several faces) with hair variants is really needed aswell, for the different ages. That way we can give king Domnall of Dal Riata his real face, his nickname beeing Brecc, the freckled!

freckled faces of men and women


->Meshes_face_gen
See suggestions for new hair:
http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7266364/

->Otros_items
- horn: this one is good for Anglo-saxons, other culture can get one without runes on the rim (perhaps a bronze rim and fitting)
- palka: those are good, is there only one handed or also two handed versions? Maybe one hand and half
- pick and pickaxe: don't forget to remove those...


->Seaxycuchillos
- huntingdagger: its a seax aswell :) A scabbard is needed.

->Tempered_mats and Tempered_mesh
Those tents shall be reskinned to off-white or brown.
Getelds saxon tents would be better however on the camp.
Ill post suggestions (in camps you can also get simple shelters made with local trees or cloth).



->Yelmos1
- rath_spangen_lord: simply raise a bit the front of it to see the eyes of characters (or rotate it slightly to the back)
- helmetx2: needs correction for the model as the cheekguards are currently wrongly positionned (just like if they were not tied). Variants with horsehair tail can be added
- celtycke_lebka: good one, but the variants with cheekguards, horsehair tail, or iron texture are still needed
- dux_ridge_gold: remove gemstones from cheeks and noseguard.
- horn_helmet: variants needed
- rathos_spang and briton_helmet: could get variants.


Before going further, refer to those threads:
- introduction about clothing: http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7263992/
- male clothing suggestions: http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7264756/
- female clothing suggestions: http://s9.zetaboards.com/exilian/topic/7264946/


->Tunicalarga
- gaelic_jacket: variants needed, see (hay en SoT 2 más)

- pict_long_tunic: retexture 1 and 4
- kent tunic, tunikwjac: excellent stuff! Variants needed however
- pictishdress and dress2: change color (a bit too much of blue), belt for the dress2?

->Tunicas4
- noblemanshirt: reskin all of them (gaelic and pictish aswell), no black tunic
- BL_NT: remove the black and white checkered rims on sleeves, this type of tunic is good for anglo-saxons. Also the bottom should not be hollow at the middle, if you see what I mean
In those ones, remove or reskin: red09/blue04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12/green 04 05/red 05 06 07 08.


Tunicas1
- BL_NT: remove the black and white checkered rims on sleeves, this type of tunic is good for anglo-saxons. Also the bottom should not be hollow at the middle
In those: edit blue08, 11_coat (modern looking tartan), red04, red12

->Tunicas2
- picttunic2, 3, 4: edit color (no pure white)
- braz, czermany, gairlom, purpura: edit them, currently cloak, sleeves, overgarnment and brooch are all of the same color! It was a very attempt of Kolba at texturing in SoT :)
- padded leather: remove or tweak the texture
- padded tunic: same
- armor 27 and 26: no bicolor half, more variants could be nice using that mesh.



->Tunicasypropavaria
- peasants
- shirt
Can and should get more variants! No red hood of course