The Hobbit

Started by Jubal, December 19, 2012, 11:22:53 PM

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comrade_general

I thought they were a good size in TTT (albeit a little too hyena-ey). In the book it does say that orcs rode them like horses, so it'd have to be bigger than a huge dog.

Gen_Glory

i thought they were bigger than wolves as they are meant to be big enough to be ridden by orcs and could talk
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Pentagathus

Isn't it just goblins who ride them though? Yeah they're meant to be bigger than wolves but actual wolves are fairly dog sized.

Ladyhawk

I thought the Wargs were perfect. I have just recently read the book and Peter did rather well I thought. They are trying to stretch out a small book over three movies. Which is good for fans because it means Lord of the Rings won't truly be over for another two movies. You guys are being too picky :P

Lord of the Rings had differences to the books. Many differences. Its just this book is alot smaller so the differences stand out more.

The Rabbits were cool anyway :D I thought it was very fitting for Radagast.
When reading the book I always pictured them to be large. To be honest, in the movie, they looked different to the Wargs in the Two Towers. The Northern Wargs were far more wolf like than the Isengard Wargs. Their faces were not as triangle shaped and compacted. They were also a bit smaller. Except maybe the white one. (She was cool :D It looks like a she. So it is. )

My only problem were the three mountians fighting with each other. As cool as it was, I was a little confused, because it was just giants throwing rocks at each other wasnt it? Not actual living mountain creature thingys.

But all in all, I really liked the movies. It still had the Lord of the Rings feel :) I believe they did a very good job :)
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Pentagathus

They were rock giants or stone giants or whatever, they were very very briefly mentioned in the book during the storm in the misty mountains.

Gen_Glory

i thought they were storm giants in the book, hurling lightening and boulders at each other
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comrade_general

Just reread the first part of the book recently, and later on Gandalf talks about how he might like to ask one of the giants to seal up the goblin's secret entrance. So... I dunno.

Pentagathus

They aren't really described anywhere in any of Tolkein's books that I read.

Jubal

I would have preferred them as more standard humanoid giants, I must admit.
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comrade_general

I think I prefer them as metaphors.

Phoenixguard09

Agreed with Ladyhawk and Jubal.

Although the fact that giants were not mentioned at all in LotR leads me to think that Tolkien just wanted to forget about them. :P
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Jubal

The alternative argument is that Giants were a species native to the northern regions of Middle Earth - Angmar, the northern Misty Mountains, and northern Eriador - in which case after the first few chapters of LOTR the protagonists were in any case far away from Giant country.
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Phoenixguard09

Well of course. But I still think Tolkien changed his mind. :P

That or the giants were similar creatures to those found in the old Battle for Middle Earth game, which I enjoyed as an aside.  I think overall, if giants exist, I will mentally erase the bit where Gandalf states some are friendly and continue to think of them as living, organic creatures.

Not living mountains, which I feel is just a little too much outright magical stuff for my liking.
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comrade_general

Plan on seeing part 2 this evening.

Jubal

I'm hopefully seeing it with Penty, DD, and No1CFan on Thursday  :)
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