The New Movies: Discussion/Excitement/News

[Jubal]

Friendly non-admin request: please spoiler tag all spoilers for at least the next couple weeks whilst others of us get round to seeing it. 

[comrade_general]

I'm so excited that I'm'a poo my pants.

[comrade_general]

It was portugaling awesome! Will definitely see it again.

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Only wish it was darker; they should have destroyed the Starkiller, but not before it got if it's last shot, thusly phucking up the Resistance. Then Chewie, Rey, Fin, Poe, and the last of the fighters, with no one else left to fight the First Order, would go off to find Luke. Because it's not about the Resistance, it's about the Force sensitives coming back.

[SaidaiSloth]

I may see it again at a fancy laser imax cinema (basically the highest quality you can get).
My thoughts:

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-Very good that Mark Hamil started working out nice and early so that he could stand still for about 30 seconds and then turn - although he did look badass.
-Captain Phasma was a criminal waste of the talent of Gwendoline Christie, that voice was perfect - fortunately she's been confirmed to come back for the next two
-I was shaking in the bridge scene, I sort've predicted it - I began doubting my self when they hugged, but I wasn't sure... then it happened.
- The entire row in front of us was some people who I think saw the originals when they first game out - they all audibly gasped when the above scene ended.
- Only 361 days til rogue one
- Also, I only just found out that there is a rumored boba fett movie for 2020. Yay.
-The fight choreography and cinematography was better than most modern action movies. People are complaining about Rey using the force so easily, but I am fairly certain that she's been brainwashed, and she's had previous training with her dad. (well, I think her dad.)
-Question is, who's her mother? Apparently, although I didn't notice Luke was standing at a grave at the end? I'll have to watch again
- Can't wait for the full star wars collection that will undoubtedly come out after whatever comes in 2020, and then probably again after episode 12, if that's going to happen.

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IT WAS portugalING INCREDIBLE
WATCH IT NOW

[comrade_general]

What do you think of my idea? It's really the only thing I would change.

[SaidaiSloth]

I'm pretty sure that that was probably considered at one point, but I think they wanted to make this be very similar to A new hope so that they can get fans trust. In the next episodes, I think they're going to start experimenting and making it a bit darker. Rian Johnson is directing the next one. I think it will end similiarly to Empire, with everything going to armadillo - only this time, there won't even be a happy ending, with them having hope at the end. It will end with everything going to armadillo, and everyone giving up. Episode 9 will be about working themselves back up for the final showdown.

[comrade_general]

It would have definitely set this one apart from the others though.

[Clockwork]

I'd encourage everyone to see it. Great picture.

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The villains were frankly bad though. Darth Snooki is nowhere near as badass as the emperor and the emo preteen is a joke.

Not a fan of the feature creep in the death laser being so much hugerer than the death stars, personally I would have wanted to see a bit more of the (what amounts to) auxiliary stormtroopers being deployed as meatshields and then the black armoured guys killing swathes of rebels and depicting the new empires power like that and potentially with Darth Snooki mind controlling like a planet or something


Han kind of carried the movie, his scenes were the better ones wrt humour and action. Having said that, the best parts were with the x-wings. The scene on the bridge was expected right from the start nearly but I didn't think it really added anything to the movie and was a little clichéd. The jokes were a little too often and too slapstick for me tbh but it wasn't terrible.

Another thing I'm a big fan of is the low levels of force ability used. Revan and Fin just plain aren't very strong while Rey has raw talent, hasn't honed anything and so is inexperienced with its use. It would have been weird to dive straight back into high power-jedi council days or even a cadre of Sith.

[comrade_general]

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Emo preteen was kinda intended to be a joke I think. Just a Vader wannabe. He passed his test though so with more training I'm sure he'll be more badass in next film. I quite liked General Hux; speech was awesome etc.

[Clockwork]

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Perhaps but if so they should probably have had him die unceremoniously at some point. That Gneral was ok tbf and how badly did they want red nazi stuff everywhere during that speech? Come on Star Wars you used to be more subtle than that.

[comrade_general]

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Joke in first film, not so much in next film.
For the FIRST ORDAH!

[comrade_general]

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/george-lucas-not-a-fan-of-retro-star-wars-approach-20151230

lol he mad

[Clockwork]

He didn't say it wasn't a good movie tbf just that he's disappointed that they didn't go for something completely new, which is echoed by quite a few fans from what I've read.

[comrade_general]

He still mad.

[Pentagathus]

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I thought Ren makes a pretty interesting villain, he hasn't been fleshed out yet but I look forward to his development in the next films, plenty of time to wonder about on his real motivations before then. His fits of rage certainly weren't any worse than Vader choking half of his generals.
I enjoyed the bridge scene, felt it was pretty obvious Han was bantha fodder (well it would have been lame for the main villain to turn so early in the story) but the quality of acting actually made up for that.
Snoke really wasn't much of a feature in this film, can't say much about him yet. Quite interesting that he seemed so chillaxed though, didn't really sound like he gave a portugal about the rebels finding the map to Luke. Think he could be a good counterweight to Ren's unhinged nature, and a much more dangerous villain than any from the previous films.
The jokes and banter between characters probably made this film for me, so nice that the script didn't rely on jar jar or C3PO for humour.
Does Fin have any force power? He doesn't appear to, just holds a lightsaber a few times.
I too liked Hux's speech, it's good to know what the motivations of the Order's supporters is (besides fear and brainwashing.)
I read somewhere that Phasma will have a bigger role in the next film.
@Rob who's Revan?
Edit: Forgot to mention the bad, really disliked the new deathstar planet thing, the scene where they work out how to blow it up nearly ruined the film for me. It worked in episode 4, but this is supposed to be a different film.