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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2014, 01:52:05 PM »
Also, Mirkwood Elves apparently draw heavy inspiration from MCU Heimdall for their battle outfits. Or maybe that's just me :P

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2015, 07:57:55 PM »
Film was not as bad as the 2nd but still very stupid.

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 10:19:51 PM »
My enthusiasm is pretty much all from the White Council :P Also possibly the fact we were watching in the Odeon Gallery and was unlimited nachos and cheese :P

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2015, 12:49:06 AM »
Well, I saw it a few days ago in 48fps VMAX (bigger screen, comfortable seats, leg room, comfy arm rests etc.)

I enjoyed it. The love triangle was annoying, and it's certainly very different to the book.

But it was fun. The action was fast paced, fairly well choreographed and the 48fps made it even better.

Legolas had many stupid moments (running up falling rocks - really?) but it was fun to just sit back, relax and watch him be a badass.

So yeah, I liked it. And I liked the 48fps, but many others don't, and I could see why they wouldn't.
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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2015, 03:20:03 PM »
The white council was probably the biggest disappointment about the whole trilogy for me. It was covered fairly well in the first one and then the rest was just utter armadilloe.

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2015, 04:58:17 PM »
^ I just really like Galadriel and was grateful of her screen time. They did make it a little too obvious that Saruman was a villain though, you think someone would've noticed xD

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2015, 08:33:05 PM »
I hated the fact that Gandalf was as subtle as a porn film in the second film and I hated the fact that the white council scene in the 3rd film was just yet another stupid action scene. And the fact that it seems Saruman manages to banish Galadriel to Lothlorien as soon as she's saved their arses.

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2015, 11:36:53 PM »
Really I think what you have to do is accept 2 and 3 as action films, not the fantasy adventure of the first.
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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2015, 01:27:39 PM »
...And the fact that it seems Saruman manages to banish Galadriel to Lothlorien as soon as she's saved their arses.

I must admit, it did annoy me that they seemed to limit Galadriel - if she'd accept Saruman basically telling her to go home. Also why she needed to 'charge up' was a bit beyond me...
But still, what with Tauriel being around, I was glad of a proper Tolkien lady :P

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2015, 04:12:53 PM »
I enjoyed it personally.

Negatives:
- The love triangle. It was not needed. But, on the other hand, I kind of liked Tauriel.
- How little we saw of Beorn.
- The GOATS!? What was that about?
- Dain II wielded the Red AXE. (Barazantathul I think?) Not a hammer. A minor difference sure, but ultimately pointless. Why change it?

Positives:
- Armitage and Pace got Thorin and Thranduil down to an absolute tee. Pace in particular was exceptional.
- Dain Ironfoot made me laugh. Not what I expected, but I was happy enough with it.
- The god-damn score. Again, Shore stitched me up right at the end.
- Billy Boyd's Last Goodbye. Holy crap, the waterworks were bad.

I was gently weeping for the entire credits sequence.
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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2015, 05:04:18 AM »
I only have one sentence concerning The Battle of Five Armies:
Every possible scene was ruined, even if it started well.


This rant sums up my whole Hobbit experience:

Every part of the movie is over-exaggerated to the point that it's unconvincing. Too many over-the-top scenes and deal-braking changes were made (at least IMO).
CGI was overly abused and ended up looking worse than LotR in some parts (released more than a decade ago).
The whole Hobbit experience was quite dissapointing for me. Especially because I've had and treasured the book since my childhood.
And after LotR I expected so much more...
Maybe I was just expecting too much, but the Hobbit fails to capture my attention.
I simply can't see past it's constant flaws.
The part which made me especially nervous is when Fíli and Kíli die before Thorin. They should have died protecting mortally wounded Thorin in the thick of the fight.
In my point of view, the movie was robbed of it's strongest and rawest scene.
Sure, LotR had some similar changes too, but they haven't felt that wrong...
Theoden being killed by a Nazgul and Eowyn standing besides his crushed body instead of Eomer, Elves defending Hornburg, Aragorn/Arwen romance scenes (which weren't over the top and fit nicely into the story)...
The third part of the Hobbit didn't follow the book at all.  >:(
I've never been so disappointed by a movie in my life... But in life there's a first time for everything. It's too bad that it had to be the Hobbit.  :-\

Having a LotR marathon at least once every year has been my long tradition and I was hoping to include three more movies in it...
But I'm afraid that I won't be watching them again. Once was more than enough.


Rare parts that I liked:
- The first two movies at least followed the story for the most part
- Bilbo was well portrayed
- I liked how Thorin and Balin were portrayed
- Giant spiders of Mirkwood
- Dwarven armours (not the company, though) and phalanxes
- The encounter with Gollum was perfect
- Silvan armours (palace guards especially)
- Goblins and their armory (as always)
- Erebor architecture and design
- Dol Gudur architecture
- The part in which Thorin sallies out (ruined immediately afterwards by them not wearing their new armor as in the book)
- LotR reference on the end
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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2015, 01:24:06 PM »
I think the reason I don't seem overly mad about Kili dying defending Tauriel and not Thorin is because I saw it coming from DoS. I was fully expecting it having seen the second film. I was hoping they'd kill her off to explain her not appearing/being mentioned in LotR but oh well. I'm just seething internally about it now. (Not to mention the fact I'm pretty offended that Hollywood seem to think women will not watch films without a romance sub-plot at least). :P

I actually thought the second was the worst film :/ Beorn's part being so changed, the addition of Tauriel and the ridiculous love triangle introduction, the 'Super Mario' barrel scene - ugh - the fact that Fili, Kili and Bofur didn't go up to the Lonely Mountain with everyone else - to me, that was the film that got everything wrong. Oh, and no spider song!

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2015, 06:18:19 PM »
There was a definite lack of songs after the first one. Or the first half of the first one really.

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Re: The Battle of Five Armies - reactions?
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2015, 06:29:02 PM »
There was a definite lack of songs after the first one. Or the first half of the first one really.

There definitely was. I felt that with LotR too though.