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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 02:46:26 AM »
I have been working on a dragon to put on that New Amazonian Spearwoman, and here is what I have come up with.

Option 1


Option 2


Which looks better? I am leaning toward the second one as it is simpler and thusly easier to make out. Once I decide which to go with I will put a black outline around the dragon to make it stand out a bit better.

I have also decided that I want the Spearwomen to be a 3rd tier unit, one that New Amazon can use as the backbone of its infantry throughout the middle and late game, much as Amazonia's Armoured Hoplites do. With that in mind I am going to give them a javelin to throw before engaging in melee, and might change their leggings to a metal greave.

This also means I will need a new infantry unit at 2nd tier. I am thinking of perhaps a Militia Axewoman, with a shield, axe, and little or no armour.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 07:01:48 PM by SubRosa »

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2009, 05:21:20 PM »
Second dragon looks easier to see.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2009, 12:54:08 AM »
Personally I preferred the version with an unadorned shield, but if it's between thsose two, then the second.

As for the axewomen, sounds like a good plan. You could perhaps use the Virgin Archer model as a base, or just use the normal Axewomen model with an unarmoured texture.
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2009, 02:09:12 AM »
I finished the Militia Axewomen.



Given that they are using the small crescent shield, I went and gave the 3rd tier Axewomen the fancier crescent shield.


Now however, I am at the EDU and DMB limits, so I will have to free up some slots in both before I can go any further.
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2009, 04:57:42 AM »
I spent the last day condensing the EDU and DMB. A most onerous task, especially when you consider I have to do it twice, once for the BI version and a second time for the RTW version of the mod. After this next release I am no longer going to support the RTW version. It is just too hard to update two versions of the same mod.

Back to that Spearwoman. I added a pila for a precursor weapon. I think this may make them the only spear unit in RTW that throws a javelin. The BI version of the unit has the shield wall ability, and can throw the pila just fine while in the wall. The RTW version has the phalanx ability, and I found cannot throw the pila when in phalanx formation. Interesting.

I also did some minor tweaks to the skin, making her shoulderpads made out of mail, and adding a greave to her leg. Finally, I outlined the dragon symbols in black, and now they look much better. I am still not sure which to go with, but now I am leaning more to to Option 1.

Option 1


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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2009, 10:34:43 PM »
I have my final version of the Spearwoman shield. I took the wings off the more popular version and was thusly able to enlarge it to cover nearly all of the shield.

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« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2009, 02:54:12 AM »
Nothing too special about the next two. They are the bottom rung of the New Amazonian roster. A Warband and Skirmisher. The only male units they possess.

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Now to get to work on Amazon Berserkers. This will not be easy...

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2009, 02:52:51 AM »
Here is an early version of the Amazon Beserkers.



I am having a problem getting the bearskin to stick to all of the bones it needs to. I applied a skin modifier and weighted the vertices according to Step 8 here, but with no luck. I will also probably work some more on the skin and mask. But this gives an idea of how they will look.

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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2009, 02:57:37 PM »
They do look frightening indeed!

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2009, 03:41:36 PM »
I like them... they are unique and barbaric
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2009, 04:09:19 AM »
Thanks guys,

I am thinking of using a different weapon than the double-headed axe, as that is the weapon of the Agema Axes as well. I am not sure what else I might use though. A two-handed sword does not feel right. Or a falx. I know I do not want that spiked club the German Berserkers have.

One thought I had was to use a single-bladed two-handed axe (the kind the German Chosen Axemen have) in each hand. But that idea seems to go to the ridiculous. Two of the normal single-handed axes might work. But I want something big and ominous.

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2009, 09:14:00 AM »
Really big mace perhaps?
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2009, 01:07:57 PM »
They look nice. I take it that is a mask on the face? looks good and original - adding some variation in. Two single handed axes would be good, but as you say, something big and terrifying would be better. What about two single-handed falxes?
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2009, 05:29:58 PM »
I thought about a mace, but the one that the Cataphracts have is pretty weak looking, and I do not have a model for a larger version. The idea of the two falxes might work. I will give that a try and see how it looks.

The mask is actually that of the Graal Knights. I just recoloured it. That is just a placeholder though (I hope). I want to replace it with a mask of a raven's face if possible. I plan to make them recruited from the Temple of Freja, and will be known to their Germanic neighbors as the Valkyrja, "the Choosers of the Slain".

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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2009, 04:29:38 AM »
The berserkers are coming along. I have not had any luck with the raven mask, so it looks like the one they have now will stay. However, I did finally get the vertices of the bearskin weighted properly, so now it sticks to all the right parts of her. Almost done.