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#1
RTR 0.5 Imperial Campaign / Re: 0.6-1.0
March 03, 2014, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: The Sloth on March 03, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
So basically, unless we create an entirely new culture for Iberia, with customized buildings and so on, we'd better keep them barbarian.

Yes, it would be better, but put them like carthaginian or greeks could be fine. The edetani capital Arse (or latin saguntum) was greek colony mixing with iberian king goverment. Something freak... hahahaahah But iberian people are so much specific to be represented with RTW resources and engine. Wherever, there are other interesting iberian faction of non iberian ethnic like celtiberian arevaci or celtici lusitani or celtiberi themself...

QuoteIndian for when we make the Mauryan faction campaign

Yes, in RTRA 2.0 we have included indian culture based on eastern but with different temples (stuppas), different portraits and other resources. Its easy.

Sorry for my english mistakes guys...  ::)


#2
RTR 0.5 Imperial Campaign / Re: 0.6-1.0
March 03, 2014, 10:16:06 AM
We are in the same point, I mean, now we should change internal names for some faction and create new cultures in RTRA III.

hmmm about iberian. I think that I can help...

Iberian property was people who lived in mediterranean costline from Gades to Emproion. Almost the entire andalusian region was iberian people homeland and currently provinces of Valencia and Cataluña. These peoples were the most ancient people of iberian peninsula and they was the most involved too. Iberian peoples had a huge influence of phoenicians and greek because they had trading by hundred years between them.

The problem is, what tribe do you want to create to RTR? Because, the entire peninsula hadn´t a common culture like gaul peoples. In spain there are three kind of ethnic groups. Iberian property, Celtiberian and Celtic peoples.

Celtiberian and Celtic peoples in Iberian peninsula are difficult to explain because they aren´t celtc property for a few and very importants reasons. The first is that they belong to ancient migrations before hallsthatt, so, they are indoeuropean peoples and slightly similar to gaulish but they aren´t...

So, Celtic peoples of iberian peninsula like Lusitanians or Galacians, asturian, etc are indoeuropean peoples that they arrived before hallsthat cultures and other european celtic cultures. The group know like celtiberian have the same problem but this, in addition its influenced by iberian culture.

And iberian culture is a original culture from iberian peninsula but its the most influenciated by phoenicians and greeks.

Obviously, gaul peoples were influences by greeks in ancient times (greek pottery in gaul, etc), but iberian peoples were totally modified by them...

Exampkles of iberian, celtiberian and celtic peoples in spain:

Iberian: turdetani, bastetani, edetani, south-carpetani, etc
celtiberian: celtiberi, carpetani-north, vaccei, arevaci, etc
Celtic: lusitani, galacians, asturians, etc

Vasci??? The origing of vascii tribe ist unknow and strongly disscuss...
in my opinion was people proto-iberian. the reason is that there are iberian culture places in aquitania region, but these places were isolated from phoenician and greek influence (costline). For this, Vascii peoples and other ancient iberian tribes from atlantic costline were isolated and ceturies later, seem different from iberian peoples from mediterranean costline.

So, celtic and celtiberian can use barbarian culture but iberian its a problem because carthaginian culture is wrong, greek culture is wrong and barbarian is wrong. Iberian should be:

Postraits: Mix beetween barbarian and greek portraits.
Houses: Like carthaginian tipology but white colour and with greek/barbarian cityplan
Temples and art: totally new but with greek influence

for now, its all.

::)
#3
RTR 0.5 Imperial Campaign / Re: Introduce Yourself!
March 03, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
Thanks!!

Yeah, We need to talk  ;) but he always is very kind.

;)
#5
RTR 0.5 Imperial Campaign / Re: Introduce Yourself!
March 02, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Hi!

Im Solon, the Rome Total Realism Anabasis Mod Leader. I have been invited by ahowl11 to colaborate with RTR Project to help as much possible with my own work and RTRA team work. RTR Project Team are free to use RTRA resources, visit our forum and open a new subforum there.

I´m 30 years old, I have studied art in Granada, Spain and currently I´m going to begin my postgraduate. Also, I have read hellenistic history by ten years and I like to modding RTW engine. Im a codder/mapper modder, but I know some things about scripting, 2D art, etc.

;)