The Star Trek Thread

[Jubal]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20002297

Only the second time five captains have been in the same place at once, apparently.

[comrade_general]

Oh my. Time has not been kind to the Captains.

But I've known this was happening for many months now. Nice to see it made headlines other than the nerdwebs.

[comrade_general]

Happy First Contact Day everyone!

[Silver Wolf]

I can't decide if I love or hate Star Trek: Nemesis.

[comrade_general]

That is the question.

There are so many things I would change to make it fit with the rest of the series, but oh well.

[Silver Wolf]

Now that I think of it, John Logan really screwed that one up.

These are the reasons why:

Spoiler

-    Too much emphasis on Picard and Data, with only minor involvement of the rest of the main characters
-    Too many out-of-character moments for prominent characters (Picard's "unsafe velocities," for example)
-    Poorly developed plot with too much focus on recreating scenes and scenarios used in previous films
-    Poor continuity with The Next Generation television series (no mention of Lore, for example)
-    Deletion of several character-building scenes (Data and Picard's discussion in the latter's quarters) in order to include more action in the film
-    Use of an alien race (Remans) never before featured on Star Trek
-    Lack of believable reasons for various plot events (Shinzon's existence, the construction of the Scimitar, the thalaron weapon, etc.)

It's an okay-ish movie, but a terrible series finale.

[comrade_general]

All excellent and valid points.

I would have used Romulans, but the main psycho-antagonist would have been Sela, and the bad-turned-good who would have helped the Federation in the end would have been Tomalak, because that would have been an awesome turn for such a character.

Too many other things to list here

- BUT -

At the Troi's wedding we see Wesley in a Starfleet uniform when we know for a fact he didn't choose that route and went off with the Traveler. The only time we saw Wesley continuing in Starfleet was the episode Parallels in one of the alternate universe's that Worf passed through. So the conclusion that I'm sticking to is that the movie ST: Nemesis took place in that universe due to Wesley's appearance much like the new Trek's take place in an alternate universe created by Nero.

[Silver Wolf]

At the Troi's wedding we see Wesley in a Starfleet uniform when we know for a fact he didn't choose that route and went off with the Traveler. The only time we saw Wesley continuing in Starfleet was the episode Parallels in one of the alternate universe's that Worf passed through. So the conclusion that I'm sticking to is that the movie ST: Nemesis took place in that universe due to Wesley's appearance much like the new Trek's take place in an alternate universe created by Nero.

I haven't noticed that actually.
Good point.

[Silver Wolf]

The soundtrack is flawless, though.

And the effects are pretty neat.
Which is nice, since the effects in reboot movies (yuck) seem too theatrical and seriously overdone.

[comrade_general]

Did you also notice in the movies that every time Troi takes the helm they crash the ship?

[Silver Wolf]

Nope, I didn't notice that.

I was really sad when Enterprise D went down. Enterprise E was cool, but the Galaxy class felt like home.

[comrade_general]

Amen to that brotha.

[Silver Wolf]

Putting aside the emotional attachment because of the whole series, maybe it's because of the interior.

The Galaxy class had comfortable, friendly interior, curved lines, lots of free space and felt like a "luxurious" ship.
The Sovereign class was dark and sort of crowded. It was a battleship, really. Both inside and out.

[comrade_general]

Understandable why Starfleet went that route though, what with the Borg and the Dominion about. We just have to trust that they went back to carpeted exploration ships after all that.

[Silver Wolf]

Ugh, thinking about that... I hate carpets (dust dispensers feels like a more proper term).