Human Immune System

Started by Clockwork, January 31, 2014, 03:33:17 PM

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Will

Humans also respond to pathogen specific motifs, maybe not the same ones as plants do. I don't know very much about plants to be honest.

TTG4

Quote from: Will on February 03, 2014, 02:27:55 PM
Humans also respond to pathogen specific motifs, maybe not the same ones as plants do. I don't know very much about plants to be honest.

Humans have the disadvantage of having cells that are much easier to infect, which is kind of countered by immune cells, but it seems to me to be less effective. But I'm biased, plant pathogens are something of an obsession of mine!

Silver Wolf

But plants have a less efficient method of excretion.

Their only way of getting rid of certain chemicals and all harmful metabolic products is storing them in leaves that fall off.
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Will

Quote from: TTG4 on February 03, 2014, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: Will on February 03, 2014, 02:27:55 PM
Humans also respond to pathogen specific motifs, maybe not the same ones as plants do. I don't know very much about plants to be honest.

Humans have the disadvantage of having cells that are much easier to infect, which is kind of countered by immune cells, but it seems to me to be less effective. But I'm biased, plant pathogens are something of an obsession of mine!

I'm going to go outside and burn some plants, THEN we shall see who is more evolved! :P

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Cuddly Khan

Plenty of burning plants in this part of the world at this time of year. :P ...Summer...
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Othko97

My guess as to why we have a better immune system would be our lifestyle: we are communal creatures, which probably causes viruses and bacteria to spread more quickly than in other, more sparsely populated creatures. Being in close contact with multiple other people would clearly increase chance of infection. This is well and good, but lots of other animals are also gregarious, so they may also have a better resilience to disease.

I would hazard a guess that we have better immune systems than these creatures as we are not nomadic - we stay in one place. As a result infection in the area may increase, especially before the times of sewage systems, due to viruses being able to stick around and reliably infect another individual.
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Cuddly Khan

Plants aren't nomadic, could you imagine a nomadic plant, that'd be scary!
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Jubal

Depends what you mean by nomadic, I think, yeah.
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Quote from: The Khan on February 09, 2014, 09:46:10 AM
Plants aren't nomadic, could you imagine a nomadic plant, that'd be scary!

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Jubal

Why use teeth when you can just digest things whole in pitchers of acid? :)
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Cuddly Khan

Because you need to chew the people up first before they fit inside the pitcher of acid. :)
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Jubal

Naaah, get a bigger pitcher.  :)
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