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How should we reform the Camillans to Polybians?

Ditch the Camillans and only have a Polybian Roster
0 (0%)
Have all Camillan units reformed to Polybian units at a set time (marian_reform) Possible dates: 240, 220, 211
1 (11.1%)
 Have individual units reform one at a time.. Principes at 275, Hastati/EquitesTriarii at 220, Velites at 211 (other variations available)
1 (11.1%)
Start off with Late Camillan Units instead (Italian Shields/Short Swords) and reform gradually to Polybians (Hastati etc at 220, Velites at 211)
7 (77.8%)
 Go ahead and make the new Shields/swords and have 3 sets of Hastati/Principes/Triarii, limiting our DMB and EDU slots
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: April 25, 2014, 08:39:58 AM

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Alavaria

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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2014, 02:49:52 PM »
No, I am on beam with what you are saying, it is just that I don't care for the earlier light troops.

I much prefer the velites.
So did the Romans.  ;D

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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2014, 11:16:17 PM »
Wow, after reading that it really makes no sense to me to include the leves, accensi and rorarii. I think just keeping the Velites is best. Also, we could make two sets of Maniples but they would not look extremely different and they wouldn't have much different stats. Buc, my friend, I thank you for your generous help! I think you just saved us 7 DMB slots :)

Guys we will go with:

Velites
Hastati
Principes
Triarii
Equites
Pedites Extraordinarii
Extraordinarii Cavalry
Allied Velites
Allied Hastati
Allied Principes
Allied Triarii
Allied Equites

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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2014, 09:40:28 PM »
So... which changes do we have then?  :P
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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2014, 10:07:19 PM »
For now sticking to a Polybian Roster. Depending on what happens later it could change
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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2014, 10:10:45 PM »
No Early roster at all or do I misunderstand you there?
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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2014, 11:06:42 PM »
no early roster. for now. :)
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Re: Discussion: Camillan to Polybian Unit Reforms
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2016, 04:45:31 PM »
Well I'm trying to represent the unit sizes in rtw with a +/-1:4 (actually 4,166 scale) scale (on huge unit size) camillian hastati, principes and triarii were 900 men strong, polybian hastati & principes were 1200 men strong, polybian triarii however were only 600 men in strength. All this would require to have seperate camillian and polybian units.

So my sugestion for the unit sizes is:
Equites Extraordinarii   144
Pedites Extraordinarii   200 (2 units per army)
Cam. Hastati               216
"        Principes            216
"        Triarii                 216
"        Equites              72
"        Rorarii                216
"        Leves                 72
"        Accensi              216
Pol.    Hastati               144
"        Principes            240 (or 288 if someone fixes the launcher)
"        Triarii                  240 (or 288 if someone fixes the launcher)
"        Equites               72
"        Velites                240 (or 288 if someone fixes the launcher)
"        Allied Hastati      144
"        "        Principes   240 (or 288 if someone fixes the launcher)
"        "        Triarii        240 (or 288 if someone fixes the launcher)
"        "        Equites     216
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