Author Topic: Is epic storytelling dead?  (Read 10830 times)

Jubal

  • Megadux
    Executive Officer
  • Posts: 35614
  • Karma: 140
  • Awards Awarded for oustanding services to Exilian!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« on: May 12, 2009, 05:11:08 PM »
Most articles and opinion pieces on the art of storytelling sye on thing to modern writers; plot. The focus these days is always on a fast-paced, gripping read that will catch the attention of modern, busy people. Description is cut to a minimum, action and plot are made as fast-paced as possible to pack the book full of thrills.

But does this mean that epic storytelling - the use of language as thing of beauty or an art in itself - is dead? Writers from Homer to Tolkein used beautiful descriptive passages, took time to delve deep into their characters' thoughts and feelings, and used a style of slower storytelling and depiction of scenes which I personally find much more powerful than modern fast thriller novels. However, publishers these days apparently mostly just don't even look at descriptive storytelling.

So what do you think? Do you like books with strong descriptive elements, or do you think that more writing than the plot needs is a fundamentally unnecessary feature in a book?
The duke, the wanderer, the philosopher, the mariner, the warrior, the strategist, the storyteller, the wizard, the wayfarer...

stormcloud

  • Megas Domestikos
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 2759
  • Karma: 2
  • Blah de blah!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 08:41:06 PM »
It is most definitely not,

Conn Iggulden does brilliant work with history
China Mieville has the most immersive set of books I have ever read (yes I have read LotR)

comrade_general

  • Guest
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 08:48:11 PM »
In short, these modern 'popular' books suck.  :barf:
« Last Edit: May 12, 2009, 08:48:46 PM by comrade_general »

Gen_Glory

  • Patrikios
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 3106
  • Karma: 11
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 09:39:21 PM »
is Discworld included under this as they are all quite short but still recent
Tis but a scratch...


Jubal

  • Megadux
    Executive Officer
  • Posts: 35614
  • Karma: 140
  • Awards Awarded for oustanding services to Exilian!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 09:56:20 PM »
I haven't read Iggulden or Mieville. What are thier books like?
The duke, the wanderer, the philosopher, the mariner, the warrior, the strategist, the storyteller, the wizard, the wayfarer...

DeepComet5581

  • Megas Domestikos
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 944
  • Karma: 3
  • Kitten with a Camera
    • View Profile
    • My Youtube Channel
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 10:13:48 PM »
I haven't read them either.

I will challenge that statement with my book that i'm planning to write after College, called The Young Folks (Title Pending, feel free to make a suggestion). I have a MASSIVE vocabulary, and I like to be very descriptive and eloquent in my speech and text, so it may turn out quite good.
I used to do actual stuff around here, don't you know?

I would be ever so grateful if you would visit my YouTube Channel :)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsLjOCNLe0ECID84Y3nrEjQ

Jubal

  • Megadux
    Executive Officer
  • Posts: 35614
  • Karma: 140
  • Awards Awarded for oustanding services to Exilian!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 06:24:53 PM »
^Ditto. My book's called Fire and Water.

Trouble is, will we be able to find a publisher?  :ermm:
The duke, the wanderer, the philosopher, the mariner, the warrior, the strategist, the storyteller, the wizard, the wayfarer...

DeepComet5581

  • Megas Domestikos
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 944
  • Karma: 3
  • Kitten with a Camera
    • View Profile
    • My Youtube Channel
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 07:23:10 PM »
I used to do actual stuff around here, don't you know?

I would be ever so grateful if you would visit my YouTube Channel :)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsLjOCNLe0ECID84Y3nrEjQ

Jubal

  • Megadux
    Executive Officer
  • Posts: 35614
  • Karma: 140
  • Awards Awarded for oustanding services to Exilian!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 10:17:25 AM »
Yea, AFAIK the best thing is to send it to lots of people in the hope some of them might want it.
The duke, the wanderer, the philosopher, the mariner, the warrior, the strategist, the storyteller, the wizard, the wayfarer...

Andalus

  • Citizens
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 1219
  • Karma: 8
  • Awards Awarded for outstanding services to Exilian!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 10:31:29 PM »
My writing style tends to be slower-paced (except when constrained by word limits) and strongly descriptive, so I definitely agree that is better than the modern norm. :P
Du bist kein Schmetterling! Du bist nur eine kleine Raupe in Verkleidung!

Phoenixguard09

  • Megas Domestikos
    Voting Member
  • Posts: 3617
  • Karma: 23
  • Spiffy Haired One
  • Awards Awarded for outstanding services to Exilian!
    • View Profile
    • Awards
Is epic storytelling dead?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 11:38:57 PM »
Yep, same as Andalus.  By the way, a good read if you're looking for something is Naomi Novik's Temeraire books.  I find she writes in the same style as Tolkien did.

http://www.temeraire.org/index.cgi?pagetype=writing&series=Temeraire

Really good read.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 11:39:28 PM by phoenixguard09 »
The Norbayne Campaign Instagram page. Give us a cheeky follow if you like. :)
By the power of Ga'haarr I command you to vanish! VANISH!
I CANNOT BE KILLED BUT WITH FIRE!
(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your
(")_(") signature to help him gain world domination

Crazier than a crack-head cat and here to make sticky treats out of your vital organs.