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Started by ahowl11, March 02, 2014, 05:37:40 PM

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Bercor

Culture mainly determines the user interface appearence, character portraits, and style of the buildings.

Yeah, I can definitely see some similarities, Aeneas didn't changed to the dark side though... Or did he? :balrog:

Mausolos of Caria

Mmh yes true ... okay, maybe it's not too bad. Do they have the same culture in Vanilla?

Hehe that leads us back to the former point... he goes to Rome, and isn't that evil seen from an exaggerated mythological Carthaginian point of view?  ;D But Anakin is more like Achilles, I learn. Achilles is always angry, too, and has to pay with his death.

The Illiad starts with a sentence about the wrath of Achilles, which brought pain on the Achaeans. Quite similar.
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Augustus

Bercor

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I believe they share they same culture in vanilla, yes.

Spoiler
I see. However, I think that Achilles main "sin" (as in what takes him to his end) is pride, while Anakin is more corrupted by power (though pride plays a role too).

Mausolos of Caria

Okay it might work then.  Glad to have this settled anyway ;)

I'll put the Star Wars stuff in spoilers because of off-topic  ;D

Spoiler

Good point, but when Anakin tells Padmé he should advance further in his learning or when the Jedi Council denies him the promotion to the master rank he is surely offended because of his pride. Achilles doesn't want power, though, that's true, but Anakin basically kills Padmé by his wish to be able to save her- and that's a very, very Greek tragedy, too  :)

You can draw thousands of parallels anyway, Nabu is the Babylonian god of wisdom and Naboo is named after him like the Jedi are named after the Japanese term Jidai (''Sengoku Jidai'' is the time period at which Shogun (II) is set- the Age of the warring states) and Palpatine is Hitler, Caesar or Napoleon. But the one thing I found most interesting on the documentary was to see C-3PO and R2 as a Greek chorus- they are in the background most of the time, commenting the plot like a narrator, which is what the chorus on a Greek tragedy originally did.
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Augustus

Bercor

Spoiler
Yeah, like every modern fantasy, Star Wars is really influentiated by the various mythologies and real life occurencies. Don't get me wrong, Anakin story is no doubt a tragic one, however I feel that Achilles is, in the end, even with all his weaknesses, a more noble character than Anakin, because, as you said, he was not corrupted, only proudful.

That parallel between C-3PO and R2 and the greek chorus is interesting, I never thought about it. I always saw them more as comic relief. I reckon it's pretty hard to imagine the greek chorus as a comic relief tool. :P

ahowl11

I like Nomad and I like African. African makes sense for both Carthage and Numidia as they were both in Africa :)
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Prince Eugene

Concerning the feature of loyalty in 0.8, I have heard that in XGM it may increase the chance of CTD. Maybe this can be made as an optional feature?

ahowl11

Were there any specifics to this claim? If so, I'd like to know because I'd hate to have a buggy mod.
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Prince Eugene

Quote from: ahowl11 on March 04, 2014, 05:57:42 AM
Were there any specifics to this claim? If so, I'd like to know because I'd hate to have a buggy mod.
I read that from this post: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?608479-Alexander-and-loyalty
And in XGM Readme it said 'activating loyalty can cause problems', but it seems that there is still no concrete evidence...

Bercor

Quote from: ahowl11 on March 04, 2014, 02:43:23 AM
I like Nomad and I like African. African makes sense for both Carthage and Numidia as they were both in Africa :)

Then go with North African, it's more specific for that region.

Mausolos of Caria

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Sure, Achilles was a Greek semigod, he's more noble than Anakin, that's true. As for the droids, well, Greek comedy also had a chorus, it might be just very similar to Comic Relief, if you think about it

Yes, go with North African, that's fine with me.
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Bercor


ahowl11

Hmm well now it doesn't sound so good lol. Ugh I'll sleep on it, another 14 hour shift :(

And Prince Eugene, we are using BI not Alexander, so it shouldn't be an issue :)
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Alavaria

Quote from: The Sloth on March 03, 2014, 06:52:02 PMThe feature was poorly implemented in the first place: if you try to convert a settlement to your religion/whatever, you'll end up with situations like a village with 400 inhabitant revolting against your full stack of Chosen Agema Praetorians of Sparta, and there is nothing you can do about it. It's good for pissing off the player, and nothing more.
Well it happens anyway ... the religion mechanic was, however, just really really annoying.

Besides that, there is the ingame culture (which causes the "Culture Penalty" public order penalty if buildings are not of your culture), and one can of course make use of special (unbuildable, probably) buildings that give bonuses and penalties (or even restrict unit training).

ahowl11

Well here is a quick idea. Is it possible to make Temples indestructible when built? That way it will always retain the native culture?
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