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Started by ahowl11, March 02, 2014, 05:37:40 PM

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Mausolos of Caria

Well done with that  :) Are we completely revising artillery later then? Since you seem to have deleted every artillery apart from Roman onagers  ;)
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Augustus

Bercor

We are. And roman onagers, as they're currently depicted ingame, should also go, in my opinion.

Mausolos of Caria

What's wrong with them?
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Augustus

Bercor

They're completely ahistorical. The onagers used by the romans were much smaller and similar to this:

Mausolos of Caria

To be honest I scarcely remember those from vanilla RTW haha, but they do look more like that in Rome II I think.
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Augustus

Bercor


Mausolos of Caria

Their unrealistic movement over the battlefield was the best part of it  :P
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Augustus

ahowl11

We'd have to make a new one
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Bercor

Or simply get rid of it. :P

Mausolos of Caria

Well, the Romans, Syracuse, the Diadochi and Carthage surely fielded a number of very interesting siege weapons we could try to include in the mod - especially because I can only think of RS II as a mod putting in completely new artillery.
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Augustus

Bercor

The problem is: siege engines were, historically, only used in sieges, and not in field battles. If artillery its included in the mod, we could end up with largely ahistorical battles.

Mausolos of Caria

Well in the Battle of Mantineia 207 BC the Spartans used siege weapons (katapeltai) who routed the Achaian Thorakitai with their missile fire and I think the Pergamene army also did once against the Galatians.

But you are of course right that it is annoying to have siege weapons in every second land battle. Any ideas how to fix it? Because doing without them completely and only using rams & ladders at sieges would be boring and ahistorical, too.
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Augustus

Bercor

That's the exception that proves the rule. :P

Yeah, I guess we will have to leave that in the hands of the player. If he wants to fight every battle with a couple of ballistas there's nothing we can do, without harming the overall gameplay.


Mausolos of Caria

And the AI? Is there a way to influence which units it uses?
''I found a city of bricks and left a city of marble''

Augustus

Bercor

I don't think so. Good news, though, the AI almost doesn't use artillery, it's too stupid for that. However, it's also handicapped in siege battles