Discussion: New Faction Units

[Mausolos of Caria]

Hibernian vs Dundee United in the Scottish Premiership.

You are our man for Bactria! I will make a list with mercenary centers/ports and mercenaries one should be able to recruit there. Not sure how we list the AOR troops since there are soo many different regions.

What I gathered for Bactria as mercenaries so far:

- Illyrian Cavalry (Alexander left his there)
- Greek hoplites? (Or just AOR in normal barracks?)
- Mercenary Pezoi (same question)
- Scythian horse archers (same question, maybe AOR in stables in the Northern part of the kingdom)
- Thureophoroi? (you seemed to mention that they had mercenaries for them on this thread before)
- Thorakitai? (same, in the same post)
- Cretan archers? (Did they get as far?)
- Indian troops? (or AOR like hoplites, in the Eastern part?)

[Bercor]

Ok, to the basic roster this should be added:

Missile Troops
Native Slingers
Native Skirmishers
Native Archers

Infantry
Bactrian Hillmen

Cavalry
Bactrian Hippeis (maybe just the regular hippeis but re-skinned to have a more easterner look).
Native Skirmisher Cavalry.

This troops, plus the elephants, heavy cavalry, pantodopoi and bactrian hoplites were the native portion of the Bactrian army.

Regular hoplites, thureophoroi ,thorakitai, pezoi, peltasts and podromoi should only be mercenaries. We can add to this Dahae cavalry, Illyrian cavalry. Now, I don't think Bactria cared to hire cretan archers, since the eastern archers were pretty good.

Indian troops should be AOR.

[Mausolos of Caria]

Are we also adding Gastaphretes now (for Macedon and Syracuse)? And Kestros slingers (for Macedon, Aitolian League & Epiros)?

[Bercor]

[ahowl11]

I'm not sure if we should. I have Kestros slingers down but not Gastaphretes.

[Mausolos of Caria]

No replies on my massive mercenary list? 

Why are you opposing them so strongly then, Bercor?

[Bercor]

I very much doubt that gastaphretes were used in large scale in Antiquity. If we put it in the game, the player, and AI, can just spam the armadillo out of it.
Kelstros slingers, I don't mind.

[Mausolos of Caria]

Maybe we could just add a special building for both of them you can only build in a huge city? Thus they could be recruited in Syracuse and Pella (Gastraphetes), but nowhere else, unless the Macedonians get another huge city. And Kestros as a reform unit for Aitolian League, Epiros and Macedon.

[Bercor]

You're the Historian (with capital h). I bow before your knowledge.

[Mausolos of Caria]

Oh no, I had never heard about gastraphetes before you guys mentioned them here  I'm just searching through some books, though and will try to find more. My suggestion was merely game- mechanical wise.

[Mausolos of Caria]

Nae chance, I can only find information about Chinese crossbowmen... put them on hold for now.

[ahowl11]

One less DMB and EDU slot to worry about

[Mausolos of Caria]

So what do you think about my mercenary list ?

[ahowl11]

I think it's good. However I am still having trouble distinguishing which units should be factional or mercenary

[Mausolos of Caria]

Where do you need help?